Obsessed Ohio St thinks they're in as good or better shape than UM!!

Re:Obsessed Ohio St thinks they're in as good or better shape than UM!! (aMaizingMachine)

Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:19:20 GMT

Looks like WVU is sticking with the plan RR set in place.

Devon Lyons was politically correct when he said WVU's receiving corps compares favorably with that of Ohio State. He was emphatic, however, with the following statement:

"Mountaineers work harder than any team in the country. You can quote me on that. We do a lot more running than we did at Ohio State. I just feel they want it more here.''

http://wvgazette.com/Sports/WVU/200808071633

Re:Obsessed Ohio St thinks they're in as good or better shape than UM!! (jsj_297)

Thu, 07 Aug 2008 22:43:39 GMT

There are several articles someone could produce I am sure, of the WVU S&C dept saying "we have fielded the fastest and strongest teams in the country for the past 4-5 years." Now with that being said, how could anyone argue that in another 3-5 years we will not have the "fastest and strongest players in the nation." Well except for the bucks of course. Oh yeah, I saw a pic of Boren, and I am guessing he was not Barwisized, still looking pretty pudgey. I will love to see his fat unconditioned a_s ran over this fall. GO BLUE!!!!!!

Re:Obsessed Ohio St thinks they're in as good or better shape than UM!! (heisman)

Thu, 07 Aug 2008 22:23:15 GMT

KNezwek3

"I heard that Michigan got a new strength coach who's supposed to be pretty tough," Freeman said. "But we feel like we have the best here."

Anything else I can get you hei$man?

Sure, how about a quote where OSU came out publicly and said Lichter was better than Barwis? Still waiting....

Re:Obsessed Ohio St thinks they're in as good or better shape than UM!! (Wolverine4Life)

Thu, 07 Aug 2008 21:32:30 GMT

So everyone is running hard and puking...yay. We are both well conditioned, I don't really think there is a way to measure who is better so I don't see why this is a huge deal. Both sides need to drop it.

Re:Obsessed Ohio St thinks they're in as good or better shape than UM!! (2WalterSmith2)

Thu, 07 Aug 2008 19:36:30 GMT

I hope Justin Boren and his brother are leading the chorus of pukers.

The upside for the Buckeyes is that they can puke on themselves and it will blend right into their ugly uniforms with that lame gray color.

Re:Obsessed Ohio St thinks they're in as good or better shape than UM!! (2WalterSmith2)

Thu, 07 Aug 2008 19:26:02 GMT

To think that OSU is "catching up" to Michigan as far as S&C goes is ridiculous. They have an outstanding staff of Lichter and a gold-medal winning sprinter (can't think of his name) who teaches nothing but speed.

What is encouraging, however, is the fact that we have at least caught up to OSU as far as S&C goes. Given the relatively fine line that has separated the two schools over the last several games, I find it very encouraging.

Re:Obsessed Ohio St thinks they're in as good or better shape than UM!! (GoBlueWalls)

Thu, 07 Aug 2008 18:56:33 GMT

KNezwek3

"I heard that Michigan got a new strength coach who's supposed to be pretty tough," Freeman said. "But we feel like we have the best here."

Anything else I can get you hei$man?

You deserve a high 5 :)

Re:Obsessed Ohio St thinks they're in as good or better shape than UM!! (MarylandMaize)

Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:41:53 GMT

KNezwek3

"I heard that Michigan got a new strength coach who's supposed to be pretty tough," Freeman said. "But we feel like we have the best here."

Anything else I can get you hei$man?

Don't confuse them with the facts. Makes 'em ornery!

Re:Obsessed Ohio St thinks they're in as good or better shape than UM!! (KNezwek3)

Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:34:12 GMT

"I heard that Michigan got a new strength coach who's supposed to be pretty tough," Freeman said. "But we feel like we have the best here."

Anything else I can get you hei$man?

Re:Obsessed Ohio St thinks they're in as good or better shape than UM!! (UMWingedHelmet)

Thu, 07 Aug 2008 11:30:44 GMT

TK23Blue

UMWingedHelmet

TK23Blue

All of this means exactly squat right now. Michigan will be in shape, OSU will be in shape, right along with 50 other teams. The thinking has been that Michigan was always gassed in the 4th quarter which, in turn, was costing us games. I say that was potentially a part of it, but not the entire reason. Michigan's scoring differential in the 4th quarter the past 5 years, starting in 07: +43, +17, -18, +15, +87. To me, the defensive schemes have been a bigger culprit in 4th quarter losses i.e the prevent defense, rush 3 lineman, etc. With that being said, we have traditionally fared the best in the 1st and 3rd qrtrs, so that would suggest we played better when rested. The difficult part to gauge was the condition of our offense and how much does this play into it.

I don't doubt for a second that Barwis' program is a big improvement and we'll see results. But this is all designed to play at the speed that Rodriguez likes to play so it's useless to compare it to OSU or anybody else. This is simply the media perpetuating the Barwis Legend and OSU responding with, "Hey, we have a pretty good guy too. Don't forget that". There's no story here.

Possibly if you lived here in Ohio you would see it's more of a story than you give it credit for.

You may be right. I have no idea what goes on there. But unless people are running up to you on the streets telling you OSU's S&C coach is better than ours, I still don't see much of a story. Actually, people running up to you on the streets WOULD be a better story than this. ;)

I have. I have. I just finished mowing and in an hour there were 3 OSU fanatics who ran up to me and said there S&C coach is better than Barwis and I'd better get used to it. :) Thus, the premise for my previous post. These people are truly "nuts!!"

Re:Obsessed Ohio St thinks they're in as good or better shape than UM!! (TK23Blue)

Thu, 07 Aug 2008 10:42:05 GMT

UMWingedHelmet

TK23Blue

All of this means exactly squat right now. Michigan will be in shape, OSU will be in shape, right along with 50 other teams. The thinking has been that Michigan was always gassed in the 4th quarter which, in turn, was costing us games. I say that was potentially a part of it, but not the entire reason. Michigan's scoring differential in the 4th quarter the past 5 years, starting in 07: +43, +17, -18, +15, +87. To me, the defensive schemes have been a bigger culprit in 4th quarter losses i.e the prevent defense, rush 3 lineman, etc. With that being said, we have traditionally fared the best in the 1st and 3rd qrtrs, so that would suggest we played better when rested. The difficult part to gauge was the condition of our offense and how much does this play into it.

I don't doubt for a second that Barwis' program is a big improvement and we'll see results. But this is all designed to play at the speed that Rodriguez likes to play so it's useless to compare it to OSU or anybody else. This is simply the media perpetuating the Barwis Legend and OSU responding with, "Hey, we have a pretty good guy too. Don't forget that". There's no story here.

Possibly if you lived here in Ohio you would see it's more of a story than you give it credit for.

You may be right. I have no idea what goes on there. But unless people are running up to you on the streets telling you OSU's S&C coach is better than ours, I still don't see much of a story. Actually, people running up to you on the streets WOULD be a better story than this. ;)

Re:Obsessed Ohio St thinks they're in as good or better shape than UM!! (heisman)

Thu, 07 Aug 2008 10:40:19 GMT

KNezwek3

I find it interesting that in the past week, two or arguably Blues biggest rivals MSU and OSU have come out in public and stated that they think their S&C plans are better than Michigans.

That's never been said by anyone at OSU. Please post a link if you're going to make ludicrous statements.

Re:Obsessed Ohio St thinks they're in as good or better shape than UM!! (KNezwek3)

Thu, 07 Aug 2008 10:27:31 GMT

I find it interesting that in the past week, two or arguably Blues biggest rivals MSU and OSU have come out in public and stated that they think their S&C plans are better than Michigans.

We didn't ask did we?? Are a few teams out there in the big ten getting a bit nervous?

I agree that a major part of the excitement for the upcoming season is gauging the success of UM's new S&C program with on field results. Everyone knows it will be visible, but for as long as the media has been talking about it, all you hear coaches and players say is "We are in the best shape of our lives" and "the guys feel better and look better than they ever have in their lives". NOT ONCE -and I have checked quite a few articles dating back to spring- did we even mention a comparison of our weight program to other schools in our conference or around the country. The only reference made to another school is the one stating that slayton and schmidt and a bunch of WVU players moved to Ann Arbor to train with Barwis.

I agree with everyone else, let kickoff get here and everyone can flex their muscles in the wins column.

Re:Obsessed Ohio St thinks they're in as good or better shape than UM!! (maizecraize215)

Thu, 07 Aug 2008 09:58:06 GMT

Maybe they are. Maybe we were just that far behind. BUT it doesn't matter. We need to focus on our team. We need to stop worrying about what everyone else says and prove them wrong.

Re:Obsessed Ohio St thinks they're in as good or better shape than UM!! (scmgoblue)

Wed, 06 Aug 2008 22:41:32 GMT

Sigh... can the 30th just get here please?

Re:Obsessed Ohio St thinks they're in as good or better shape than UM!! (UMWingedHelmet)

Wed, 06 Aug 2008 21:39:16 GMT

TK23Blue

All of this means exactly squat right now. Michigan will be in shape, OSU will be in shape, right along with 50 other teams. The thinking has been that Michigan was always gassed in the 4th quarter which, in turn, was costing us games. I say that was potentially a part of it, but not the entire reason. Michigan's scoring differential in the 4th quarter the past 5 years, starting in 07: +43, +17, -18, +15, +87. To me, the defensive schemes have been a bigger culprit in 4th quarter losses i.e the prevent defense, rush 3 lineman, etc. With that being said, we have traditionally fared the best in the 1st and 3rd qrtrs, so that would suggest we played better when rested. The difficult part to gauge was the condition of our offense and how much does this play into it.

I don't doubt for a second that Barwis' program is a big improvement and we'll see results. But this is all designed to play at the speed that Rodriguez likes to play so it's useless to compare it to OSU or anybody else. This is simply the media perpetuating the Barwis Legend and OSU responding with, "Hey, we have a pretty good guy too. Don't forget that". There's no story here.

Possibly if you lived here in Ohio you would see it's more of a story than you give it credit for.

Re:Obsessed Ohio St thinks they're in as good or better shape than UM!! (MichiganFanInOhio)

Wed, 06 Aug 2008 11:58:29 GMT

minifry6

haha you mistake my opinion as to why the article was written for, Over Confidence for the buckeyes...I hate, let me stress HATE the buckeyes, but any blind fool knows that they should have nothing to worry about going into the football season.

I wont say they will hands down run through the big10 or Michigan, but you would be a pretty ignorant Michigan fan to not recognize the fact OSU should be good if not great this year. I am not one of those blind Michigans fans. I am an optimistic Michigan fan and hope OSU is over confident going into the Michigan game, but after having 11 previews of Michigan before the game they will have a better idea of what to be about us

Sorry minifry, mistook your post as being pro-Buckeye.

Buckeyes85

Overconfidence? So nothing short of OSU admitting that they "fear" Michigan now that you have a better S&C program is arrogance or over conficence? As TK23 articulated, you guys are manufacturing something out of nothing.

So your new guy is great. Wonderful. I bet UM will field a much better conditioned team this year. Maybe the best conditioned team in the Big10. But you are delusional to read this story and take from it that OSU is obsessed with your new conditioning program or in a frenzy to "catch up."

I realize your Buckeyes are the team to beat, but sometimes when you have everyone and their mother telling you how good you are, there is a tendancy to be, GASP, overconfident. Do you forget what happened 2 years ago in the BCS game vs. Florida when your Buckeyes were an overwhelming favorite??? Combine that with the perception that the Buckeyes now OWN Michigan and there could be a tendancy towards, GASP, overvconfidence there as well.

Furthermore, my response wasn't to the article at all. I could care less about how much the Buckeyes are puking or how hard they are working. I already know that OSU has a top notch S&C program. I don't need an article from the Columbus fishwrap to tell me that. What is known is that Michigan's S&C program has fallen behind the times the past few years and it seems to have been given the shot in the arm it needed by Mike Barwis. So, whey your fellow bucknut heisman makes a statement that no one has been in as good of shape and no one will continue to be in as good of shape, I just had to question his reasoning given the results we've seen from Barwis in just 6 short months. While Michigan may not pass the Buckeyes in overall S&C, I think it's fair to say that the Wolverines will at least be equal to them under Mike Barwis.

Re:Obsessed Ohio St thinks they're in as good or better shape than UM!! (minifry6)

Wed, 06 Aug 2008 11:31:46 GMT

haha you mistake my opinion as to why the article was written for, Over Confidence for the buckeyes...I hate, let me stress HATE the buckeyes, but any blind fool knows that they should have nothing to worry about going into the football season.

I wont say they will hands down run through the big10 or Michigan, but you would be a pretty ignorant Michigan fan to not recognize the fact OSU should be good if not great this year. I am not one of those blind Michigans fans. I am an optimistic Michigan fan and hope OSU is over confident going into the Michigan game, but after having 11 previews of Michigan before the game they will have a better idea of what to be about us

Re:Obsessed Ohio St thinks they're in as good or better shape than UM!! (Buckeyes85)

Wed, 06 Aug 2008 11:26:18 GMT

Overconfidence? So nothing short of OSU admitting that they "fear" Michigan now that you have a better S&C program is arrogance or over conficence? As TK23 articulated, you guys are manufacturing something out of nothing.

So your new guy is great. Wonderful. I bet UM will field a much better conditioned team this year. Maybe the best conditioned team in the Big10. But you are delusional to read this story and take from it that OSU is obsessed with your new conditioning program or in a frenzy to "catch up."

Re:Obsessed Ohio St thinks they're in as good or better shape than UM!! (MichiganFanInOhio)

Wed, 06 Aug 2008 10:48:23 GMT

heisman

No one has been in better shape than OSU inthe Big Ten over the last 5 years. That isn't going to change anytimein the near future.

No one can dispute that OSU was the best conditioned team in the Big 10 over the last five years. But, to say that isn't going to change anytime in the near future??? Have you seen Barwis' results in just 6 months??? If he can have this drastic of an effect on Michigan's players in 6 short months, think about what he'll be able to accomplish in the long-term! I would say that Michigan is at least on par with OSU in the conditioning department and will stay that way as long as Barwis is at the helm of the S&C program.

minifry6

Your going to have a hard time convincing any of the 19 returning starters and guys who were on the bench for OSU last year to be scared of a Michigan team they have beat for the last 4 years in a row.

With 19 guys returning from a team thats been to the last to BCS championship games they dont fear Michigan or our new S&C program. This article is clearly a response from OSU fan who were tired of hearing about Barwis and his legendary reshaping of the Michigan players.

Good, and I hope they share in your over-confidence as well... It's not like that team that has LOST BADLY in the last two BCS championship games has beaten Michigan convincingly in any of those games... And now Michigan will be leaner, meaner and quicker than they were in any of those years as well. The days of OSU continuing to dominate this rivalry are numbered...