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Who's No. 1 at Michigan? Not Braylon's choice - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 9:37 AM
Braylon miffed at Rodriguez:
 
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080507/SPORTS0201/805070365/1131
 
#1 jersey to JT Floyd, a freshman defensive back?  Hmmm...
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RE: Who's No. 1 at Michigan? Not Braylon's choice - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 9:41 AM
i want Greg Mathews to get it.
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RE: Who's No. 1 at Michigan? Not Braylon's choice - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 9:45 AM
Looks like RR and staff didn't do their homework.  It doesn't seem like AC or Braylon are going to be cool with that choice.
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RE: Who's No. 1 at Michigan? Not Braylon's choice - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 10:07 AM
If I was Braylon or AC I would not be cool with it either.  They have endowed a scholarship for what is considered a tradition and a reward.  If there was not a scholarship involved with it, I don't think it would be that big of a deal.
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RE: Who's No. 1 at Michigan? Not Braylon's choice - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 10:16 AM
Wow, what a mistake.  This is the kind of stuff that RR needs to avoid doing.
 
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RE: Who's No. 1 at Michigan? Not Braylon's choice - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 10:17 AM
Hey, guys, relax.  I'm sure RichRod will correct the snafu.  I'm sure he and his staff have had a lot more important things to do other than who gets what number. 

Since it's stipulated in BE's and AC's endowments, I'm sure the number will be changed.
  
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RE: Who's No. 1 at Michigan? Not Braylon's choice - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 10:25 AM
Maybe we should burn a Buckeye in his yard. That'll teach him.
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RE: Who's No. 1 at Michigan? Not Braylon's choice - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 10:37 AM

ORIGINAL: egami

Maybe we should burn a Buckeye in his yard. That'll teach him.


Ouch! Watched "All the Right Moves" lately have we j/k

I'll have to side with the ones thinking this was a legit oops and will change the number for the frosh, otherwise Braylon and company can cancel the moola for the scholarship. You know the money hounds at UM will not like that posibility.
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RE: Who's No. 1 at Michigan? Not Braylon's choice - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 10:43 AM

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Hey, guys, relax.  I'm sure RichRod will correct the snafu.  I'm sure he and his staff have had a lot more important things to do other than who gets what number. 

Since it's stipulated in BE's and AC's endowments, I'm sure the number will be changed.


Exactly.  I'm sure Braylon was quite surprised and that can explain his demeanor, but uh... I think it'll all work out ok, someone will make Rodriguez aware of the scholarship fund and it's intracacies and I think everything will be hunky dory in the near future.

The whole #1 thing is a cool concept, but uh... it is just number (ducks hurtling objects).  It's very cool that we're trying to turn it into a special tradition and it does have some weight behind it thanks to AC, Edwards, and Terrell... and a little bit thanks to Alexander, but there are much bigger things here to be concerned about.  Case in point, the following players have donned the #1:

'94-'96 Tyrone Butterfield
'86-'89 Greg McMurtry
'73-'75 Dave Whiteford (DB/S!)
'76-'78 Dave Willner (KICKER!!)


If you were to ask me my favorite jersey numbers in Maize and Blue list would go something like this:
21, 2, 20...

Anyways, like was mentioned, someone will inform everyone of the scholarship program, etc, and this will work out just fine.
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RE: Who's No. 1 at Michigan? Not Braylon's choice - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 10:55 AM

If you were to ask me my favorite jersey numbers in Maize and Blue list would go something like this:
21, 2, 20...


Right on....same here.
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RE: Who's No. 1 at Michigan? Not Braylon's choice - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 11:19 AM
Well said scm.  I am of the opinion that there wasn't really an 'official' tradition to begin with.  Sure, there have been several wr's that have donned the #1 jersey over the last couple of decades, but Braylon was really the first to actively pursue wanting to wear it and having to earn it.  As scm noted, for every prominent receiver that has worn the number, you can find an equally number of not so good receivers that have worn the number.  And even a couple that weren't receivers at all...
 
And if there is a scholarship offer on the table, why has the number not been assigned since Braylon's departure?  If this was such an honored tradition, wouldn't one think that guys would be falling over themselves to get the number?  Apparantley Mario was in line to get the number, but he wanted to make a legacy out of the number 86.  It was also rumored that Stonum was going to be given the number, but he too turned it down.  And does Coach Rodriguez really need to consult people about the numbers he is assigning and who he is assigning them to?  Last time I checked, the head coach is ulimately the one making those decisions.  Next thing you know, Desmond Howard will need to give the OK to wear the #21 and Coach Rod will need to seek Charles Woodson's approval before he gives a player the #2. 
 
I really think this is more of a case that Edwards is trying to turn this whole #1 thing into a tradition more than anything.  And if he succeeds, I really don't have a problem with it as long as it doesn't become a distraction and turn the focus more on the individual as opposed to the team.
 
But ultimately, doesn't Coach Rodriguez have enough on his plate than worrying about who is going to be wearing the #1 jersey?
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RE: Who's No. 1 at Michigan? Not Braylon's choice - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 11:32 AM
I also agree that Rodriguez will correct this once him and Braylon have that little chat.  I realized that Michigan has more important things and other older traditions to uphold, but I like how this one has been developed.

Wasn't Stonum promised the #1 jersey when Carr was recruiting him?  The only thing Braylon could dispute with this is that the jersey wasn't earned.

In regards to J.T. Floyd, why not wear #2 like other recent defensive studs.  
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RE: Who's No. 1 at Michigan? Not Braylon's choice - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:02 PM

ORIGINAL: scmgoblue


ORIGINAL: UMWingedHelmet

Hey, guys, relax.  I'm sure RichRod will correct the snafu.  I'm sure he and his staff have had a lot more important things to do other than who gets what number. 

Since it's stipulated in BE's and AC's endowments, I'm sure the number will be changed.


Exactly.  I'm sure Braylon was quite surprised and that can explain his demeanor, but uh... I think it'll all work out ok, someone will make Rodriguez aware of the scholarship fund and it's intracacies and I think everything will be hunky dory in the near future.

The whole #1 thing is a cool concept, but uh... it is just number (ducks hurtling objects).  It's very cool that we're trying to turn it into a special tradition and it does have some weight behind it thanks to AC, Edwards, and Terrell... and a little bit thanks to Alexander, but there are much bigger things here to be concerned about.  Case in point, the following players have donned the #1:

'94-'96 Tyrone Butterfield
'86-'89 Greg McMurtry
'73-'75 Dave Whiteford (DB/S!)
'76-'78 Dave Willner (KICKER!!)


If you were to ask me my favorite jersey numbers in Maize and Blue list would go something like this:
21, 2, 20...

Anyways, like was mentioned, someone will inform everyone of the scholarship program, etc, and this will work out just fine.


I can see both sides of it...

In fairness, the specialty of #1 originated with AC. Yes, Butterfield and McMurty were flops, but I think that the flip side is that this isn't exactly a long time tradition.

I think, however, AC and Edwards would like to make it one.

But yeah...it'll get resolved though I bet.
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RE: Who's No. 1 at Michigan? Not Braylon's choice - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:07 PM
FWIW, Braylon's own foundation says that it goes to the "athlete" not WR and that the jersey is to be selected by the coaching staff.

http://braylonedwardsfoundation.org/home.php?id=1


SCHOLARSHIP ENDOWMENT FOR UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN NO. 1 FOOTBALL JERSEY

The Scholarship Endowment for the University of Michigan's No. 1 football jersey was announced in April 2006. The charitable gift provides support to a student/athlete wearing the No. 1 football jersey. The scholarship endowment will recognize future athletes who demonstrate character and commitment both on and off the field. Athletes wearing the No. 1 jersey are selected by U-M's coaching staff.
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RE: Who's No. 1 at Michigan? Not Braylon's choice - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:08 PM
How do we even know that this is true? A newspaper article mentioned that "sources" said this was going to happen and we are taking this as fact.

RRod has been pretty smooth in making the transition and I find it hard to believe that he would overlook this. If this is true, it was done intentionally, not by mistake. I'm finding it hard to believe that it is true.
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RE: Who's No. 1 at Michigan? Not Braylon's choice - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:15 PM
Braylon said on the radio yesterday that #1 was going to a non-Wr freshman and he intended to call Rod.  The sources are about who is actually getting it (Floyd), but Braylon, himself, is definitely under the impression that it's not a WR.



ORIGINAL: M FTHFL

How do we even know that this is true? A newspaper article mentioned that "sources" said this was going to happen and we are taking this as fact.

RRod has been pretty smooth in making the transition and I find it hard to believe that he would overlook this. If this is true, it was done intentially, not by mistake. I'm finding it hard to believe that it is true.
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RE: Who's No. 1 at Michigan? Not Braylon's choice - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:46 PM
I have a feeling that RR is not going to like the idea of being dictated to by Braylon or anyone else, he's talked about embracing the tradition at Michigan so hopefully this will go smoothly. I think #1 can be a huge tool for both RR and Michigan, in Braylon's case it was a major motivation tool to get him mature and work harder, it can also be a great recruiting tool for future WR's. Its a good tradition in my book and I hope that RR continues it, I also hope RR is smart enough to pick his battles and conceed this tradition.
 
BTW, if you look at some of Mario's comments before last season you get the impression that he did want the #1 jersey but was not awarded it. Based on what we know now that appears to have be a wise choice by Lloyd/Braylon/AC whoever it was that made the call.


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RE: Who's No. 1 at Michigan? Not Braylon's choice - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 2:47 PM
Here we go again with the #1 jersey thing again
I think the whole "who will get/wear the #1 jersey thing is gay lol..... WHO CARES!!!!!
The team, the team, the team!!
 
 
Braylon made a big deal before ( and the ONLY one ever) about it at Michigan and he keeps doing it..
The only jersey numbers that should mean something at Michigan are #98 #21, #2... You know guys that won the Heisman, that stepped it up and beat OSU their senior year, that didnt drop a HUGE pass on 4th down lol 

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RE: Who's No. 1 at Michigan? Not Braylon's choice - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 2:50 PM

ORIGINAL: Harbaugh04

Braylon made a big deal before ( and the ONLY one ever) about it at Michigan and he keeps doing it..
The only jersey numbers that should mean something at Michigan are #98 #21, #2... You know guys that won the Heisman, that stepped it up and beat OSU their senior year, that didnt drop a HUGE pass on 4th down lol 


Ok, to be fair, I'm in agreeance that many people round these parts make WAY too big a deal of the #1... that said, if I gave a substantial amount of money to finance a scholarship, with one of the stipulations being that the number would be part of the whole setup, then I would likely be upset if the guidelines of that fund weren't followed.  Braylon is allowed to make a big deal out of it because he's funding the thing, and I don't think its bad to try to turn it into a tradition here.  I just get a kick out of it when people act like it's been some real long standing thing when really the #1 had always just signified AC...


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RE: Who's No. 1 at Michigan? Not Braylon's choice - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 2:58 PM

ORIGINAL: Harbaugh04

Here we go again with the #1 jersey thing again
I think the whole "who will get/wear the #1 jersey thing is gay lol..... WHO CARES!!!!!
The team, the team, the team!!


Braylon made a big deal before ( and the ONLY one ever) about it at Michigan and he keeps doing it..
The only jersey numbers that should mean something at Michigan are #98 #21, #2... You know guys that won the Heisman, that stepped it up and beat OSU their senior year, that didnt drop a HUGE pass on 4th down lol 

 
I agree--I could care less who wears the #1.  These retired numbers will always mean more to me than the #1:
 
11-The Wistert Brothers (Francis, Albert and Alvin)
47-Bennie Oosterbaan
48-Gerald Ford
87-Ron Kramer
98-Tom Harmon
 
#21 and #2 were never retired however, I think they should be.
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