why?

not to take any thing from lichter, because he has had the buckeyes in shape, but you buckeye fans have to admit: the artical does sound more like their trying to play catch-up, or that thier trying to at least grab some of the attention that michigan has been getting in the S&C department. and the fact of the matter is in the 6 wins over michigan in the last 7 years (as you buck fans always like to bring up) osu has not blown out michigan. they have been close games, and those games where all with  bigger and slower and underconditioned michigan teams. Theres a new system now, a new staff, and a new S&C program, is osu panicing just a littl??sure sounds like it to me.

No, it doesn't sound like that at all. It sounds like the media asking a question in response to the media onslaught of local (UM) coverage of Barwis, who is already a legend/superstar on many UM boards. The only one playing catch up here is UM, which they seem to be doing quite well from the offseaosn reports.

Scoffing at their rivals arrogance & big talk is a natural part of any rivalry, especially when challenged in an area where they are quite good. Having said arrogance/confidence is part of the rivalry too, from both sides.

The whole notion of panicking or fearing is a UM fan invention. Maybe they should be doing those things, but they certainly aren't doing so.

The exact same response would happen if UM staff, players & fans started raving about their newfound speed and how no one trained better or were faster in tersm of speed. OSU players and fans would likewise scoff at that notion, and this spring would run quite well at the combine, like they usually did.

All of this means exactly squat right now.  Michigan will be in shape, OSU will be in shape, right along with 50 other teams.  The thinking has been that Michigan was always gassed in the 4th quarter which, in turn, was costing us games.  I say that was potentially a part of it, but not the entire reason.  Michigan's scoring differential in the 4th quarter the past 5 years, starting in 07: +43, +17, -18, +15, +87.  To me, the defensive schemes have been a bigger culprit in 4th quarter losses i.e the prevent defense, rush 3 lineman, etc.  With that being said, we have traditionally fared the best in the 1st and 3rd qrtrs,  so that would suggest we played better when rested.  The difficult part to gauge was the condition of our offense and how much does this play into it.

I don't doubt for a second that Barwis' program is a big improvement and we'll see results.  But this is all designed to play at the speed that Rodriguez likes to play so it's useless to compare it to OSU or anybody else.  This is simply the media perpetuating the Barwis Legend and OSU responding with, "Hey, we have a pretty good guy too.  Don't forget that".  There's no story here.

"I have marked down losses for Wisconsin, Michigan State, Penn State, and Ohio State. And then there could be others such as Illinois".-BigHouseFootball March 08

Your going to have a hard time convincing any of the 19 returning starters and guys who were on the bench for OSU last year to be scared of a Michigan team they have beat for the last 4 years in a row.

With 19 guys returning from a team thats been to the last to BCS championship games they dont fear Michigan or our new S&C program. This article is clearly a response from OSU fan who were tired of hearing about Barwis and his legendary reshaping of the Michigan players.

TK23Blue


All of this means exactly squat right now.  Michigan will be in shape, OSU will be in shape, right along with 50 other teams.  The thinking has been that Michigan was always gassed in the 4th quarter which, in turn, was costing us games.  I say that was potentially a part of it, but not the entire reason.  Michigan's scoring differential in the 4th quarter the past 5 years, starting in 07: +43, +17, -18, +15, +87.  To me, the defensive schemes have been a bigger culprit in 4th quarter losses i.e the prevent defense, rush 3 lineman, etc.  With that being said, we have traditionally fared the best in the 1st and 3rd qrtrs,  so that would suggest we played better when rested.  The difficult part to gauge was the condition of our offense and how much does this play into it.

I don't doubt for a second that Barwis' program is a big improvement and we'll see results.  But this is all designed to play at the speed that Rodriguez likes to play so it's useless to compare it to OSU or anybody else.  This is simply the media perpetuating the Barwis Legend and OSU responding with, "Hey, we have a pretty good guy too.  Don't forget that".  There's no story here.

On the money...kudos to you.

heisman

No one has been in better shape than OSU inthe Big Ten over the last 5 years.  That isn't going to change anytimein the near future.

No one can dispute that OSU was the best conditioned team in the Big 10 over the last five years.  But, to say that isn't going to change anytime in the near future???  Have you seen Barwis' results in just 6 months???  If he can have this drastic of an effect on Michigan's players in 6 short months, think about what he'll be able to accomplish in the long-term!  I would say that Michigan is at least on par with OSU in the conditioning department and will stay that way as long as Barwis is at the helm of the S&C program.

minifry6


Your going to have a hard time convincing any of the 19 returning starters and guys who were on the bench for OSU last year to be scared of a Michigan team they have beat for the last 4 years in a row.

With 19 guys returning from a team thats been to the last to BCS championship games they dont fear Michigan or our new S&C program. This article is clearly a response from OSU fan who were tired of hearing about Barwis and his legendary reshaping of the Michigan players.

Good, and I hope they share in your over-confidence as well...  It's not like that team that has LOST BADLY in the last two BCS championship games has beaten Michigan convincingly in any of those games...  And now Michigan will be leaner, meaner and quicker than they were in any of those years as well.  The days of OSU continuing to dominate this rivalry are numbered...

Overconfidence? So nothing short of OSU admitting that they "fear" Michigan now that you have a better S&C program is arrogance or over conficence? As TK23 articulated, you guys are manufacturing something out of nothing.

So your new guy is great. Wonderful. I bet UM will field a much better conditioned team this year. Maybe the best conditioned team in the Big10. But you are delusional to read this story and take from it that OSU is obsessed with your new conditioning program or in a frenzy to "catch up."

haha you mistake my opinion as to why the article was written for, Over Confidence for the buckeyes...I hate, let me stress HATE the buckeyes, but any blind fool knows that they should have nothing to worry about going into the football season.

I wont say they will hands down run through the big10 or Michigan, but you would be a pretty ignorant Michigan fan to not recognize the fact OSU should be good if not great this year. I am not one of those blind Michigans fans. I am an optimistic Michigan fan and hope OSU is over confident going into the Michigan game, but after having 11 previews of Michigan before the game they will have a better idea of what to be about us

minifry6


haha you mistake my opinion as to why the article was written for, Over Confidence for the buckeyes...I hate, let me stress HATE the buckeyes, but any blind fool knows that they should have nothing to worry about going into the football season.

I wont say they will hands down run through the big10 or Michigan, but you would be a pretty ignorant Michigan fan to not recognize the fact OSU should be good if not great this year. I am not one of those blind Michigans fans. I am an optimistic Michigan fan and hope OSU is over confident going into the Michigan game, but after having 11 previews of Michigan before the game they will have a better idea of what to be about us

Sorry minifry, mistook your post as being pro-Buckeye. 

Buckeyes85


Overconfidence? So nothing short of OSU admitting that they "fear" Michigan now that you have a better S&C program is arrogance or over conficence? As TK23 articulated, you guys are manufacturing something out of nothing.

So your new guy is great. Wonderful. I bet UM will field a much better conditioned team this year. Maybe the best conditioned team in the Big10. But you are delusional to read this story and take from it that OSU is obsessed with your new conditioning program or in a frenzy to "catch up."

I realize your Buckeyes are the team to beat, but sometimes when you have everyone and their mother telling you how good you are, there is a tendancy to be, GASP, overconfident.  Do you forget what happened 2 years ago in the BCS game vs. Florida when your Buckeyes were an overwhelming favorite???  Combine that with the perception that the Buckeyes now OWN Michigan and there could be a tendancy towards, GASP, overvconfidence there as well.

Furthermore, my response wasn't to the article at all.  I could care less about how much the Buckeyes are puking or how hard they are working.  I already know that OSU has a top notch S&C program.  I don't need an article from the Columbus fishwrap to tell me that.  What is known is that Michigan's S&C program has fallen behind the times the past few years and it seems to have been given the shot in the arm it needed by Mike Barwis.  So, whey your fellow bucknut heisman makes a statement that no one has been in as good of shape and no one will continue to be in as good of shape, I just had to question his reasoning given the results we've seen from Barwis in just 6 short months.  While Michigan may not pass the Buckeyes in overall S&C, I think it's fair to say that the Wolverines will at least be equal to them under Mike Barwis.

TK23Blue


All of this means exactly squat right now.  Michigan will be in shape, OSU will be in shape, right along with 50 other teams.  The thinking has been that Michigan was always gassed in the 4th quarter which, in turn, was costing us games.  I say that was potentially a part of it, but not the entire reason.  Michigan's scoring differential in the 4th quarter the past 5 years, starting in 07: +43, +17, -18, +15, +87.  To me, the defensive schemes have been a bigger culprit in 4th quarter losses i.e the prevent defense, rush 3 lineman, etc.  With that being said, we have traditionally fared the best in the 1st and 3rd qrtrs,  so that would suggest we played better when rested.  The difficult part to gauge was the condition of our offense and how much does this play into it.

I don't doubt for a second that Barwis' program is a big improvement and we'll see results.  But this is all designed to play at the speed that Rodriguez likes to play so it's useless to compare it to OSU or anybody else.  This is simply the media perpetuating the Barwis Legend and OSU responding with, "Hey, we have a pretty good guy too.  Don't forget that".  There's no story here.

Possibly if you lived here in Ohio you would see it's more of a story than you give it credit for.

  
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Maybe they are. Maybe we were just that far behind. BUT it doesn't matter. We need to focus on our team. We need to stop worrying about what everyone else says and prove them wrong.

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  I find it interesting that in the past week, two or arguably Blues biggest rivals MSU and OSU have come out in public and stated that they think their S&C plans are better than Michigans. 

  We didn't ask did we?? Are a few teams out there in the big ten getting a bit nervous?

  I agree that a major part of the excitement for the upcoming season is gauging the success of UM's new S&C program with on field results.  Everyone knows it will be visible, but for as long as the media has been talking about it, all you hear coaches and players say is "We are in the best shape of our lives" and "the guys feel better and look better than they ever have in their lives".  NOT ONCE -and I have checked quite a few articles dating back to spring- did we even mention a comparison of our weight program to other schools in our conference or around the country.  The only reference made to another school is the one stating that slayton and schmidt and a bunch of WVU players moved to Ann Arbor to train with Barwis.

   I agree with everyone else, let kickoff get here and everyone can flex their muscles in the wins column.

KNezwek3


  I find it interesting that in the past week, two or arguably Blues biggest rivals MSU and OSU have come out in public and stated that they think their S&C plans are better than Michigans. 

That's never been said by anyone at OSU.  Please post a link if you're going to make ludicrous statements.

UMWingedHelmet

TK23Blue


All of this means exactly squat right now.  Michigan will be in shape, OSU will be in shape, right along with 50 other teams.  The thinking has been that Michigan was always gassed in the 4th quarter which, in turn, was costing us games.  I say that was potentially a part of it, but not the entire reason.  Michigan's scoring differential in the 4th quarter the past 5 years, starting in 07: +43, +17, -18, +15, +87.  To me, the defensive schemes have been a bigger culprit in 4th quarter losses i.e the prevent defense, rush 3 lineman, etc.  With that being said, we have traditionally fared the best in the 1st and 3rd qrtrs,  so that would suggest we played better when rested.  The difficult part to gauge was the condition of our offense and how much does this play into it.

I don't doubt for a second that Barwis' program is a big improvement and we'll see results.  But this is all designed to play at the speed that Rodriguez likes to play so it's useless to compare it to OSU or anybody else.  This is simply the media perpetuating the Barwis Legend and OSU responding with, "Hey, we have a pretty good guy too.  Don't forget that".  There's no story here.

Possibly if you lived here in Ohio you would see it's more of a story than you give it credit for.

You may be right.  I have no idea what goes on there.  But unless people are running up to you on the streets telling you OSU's S&C coach is better than ours, I still don't see much of a story.  Actually, people running up to you on the streets WOULD be a better story than this. ;)

"I have marked down losses for Wisconsin, Michigan State, Penn State, and Ohio State. And then there could be others such as Illinois".-BigHouseFootball March 08

TK23Blue

UMWingedHelmet

TK23Blue


All of this means exactly squat right now.  Michigan will be in shape, OSU will be in shape, right along with 50 other teams.  The thinking has been that Michigan was always gassed in the 4th quarter which, in turn, was costing us games.  I say that was potentially a part of it, but not the entire reason.  Michigan's scoring differential in the 4th quarter the past 5 years, starting in 07: +43, +17, -18, +15, +87.  To me, the defensive schemes have been a bigger culprit in 4th quarter losses i.e the prevent defense, rush 3 lineman, etc.  With that being said, we have traditionally fared the best in the 1st and 3rd qrtrs,  so that would suggest we played better when rested.  The difficult part to gauge was the condition of our offense and how much does this play into it.

I don't doubt for a second that Barwis' program is a big improvement and we'll see results.  But this is all designed to play at the speed that Rodriguez likes to play so it's useless to compare it to OSU or anybody else.  This is simply the media perpetuating the Barwis Legend and OSU responding with, "Hey, we have a pretty good guy too.  Don't forget that".  There's no story here.

Possibly if you lived here in Ohio you would see it's more of a story than you give it credit for.

You may be right.  I have no idea what goes on there.  But unless people are running up to you on the streets telling you OSU's S&C coach is better than ours, I still don't see much of a story.  Actually, people running up to you on the streets WOULD be a better story than this. ;)

I have.  I have.  I just finished mowing and in an hour there were 3 OSU fanatics who ran up to me and said there S&C coach is better than Barwis and I'd better get used to it.  :)  Thus, the premise for my previous post.  These people are truly "nuts!!"

  
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"I heard that Michigan got a new strength coach who's supposed to be pretty tough," Freeman said. "But we feel like we have the best here."

Anything else I can get you hei$man?

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"I heard that Michigan got a new strength coach who's supposed to be pretty tough," Freeman said. "But we feel like we have the best here."

Anything else I can get you hei$man?

Don't confuse them with the facts.  Makes 'em ornery!

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KNezwek3


"I heard that Michigan got a new strength coach who's supposed to be pretty tough," Freeman said. "But we feel like we have the best here."

Anything else I can get you hei$man?

You deserve a high 5 :)