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Favre - Tuesday, July 08, 2008 3:34 PM
Thoughts on his coming out of retirement?  Poor Rogers...what did he do to deserve this?  Imagine Green Bay saying we don't want you back and Favre still wants to play.  All of a sudden Minnesota picks him up for a Super Bowl run because they don't have complete confidence in Jackson!! 
 
P.S. Lions still suck.

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RE: Favre - Tuesday, July 08, 2008 3:51 PM
Yes Favre has had a great career and been the face of the program, but has any other super star put their organization through what he has the past 3-5 years? I mean EVERY off season, he's a little drama queen biotch wanting everyone to kiss his butt to return. I'm sick of hearing about him. Go ride your Snapper with a Bud heavy.
 
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RE: Favre - Tuesday, July 08, 2008 4:03 PM
If Brett Favre wants to come back and play, the Packers would be CRAZY not to say YES.
 
One question and I heard this from Scott Van Pelt today on radio, "Who gives you the best chance to win a Super Bowl, Aaron Rodgers or Brett Favre?"
 
I think the question is very easy to answer.
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RE: Favre - Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:12 PM
I agree that the Packers need to take Favre back if he wants to play but this drama over his retirement is BS. 
 
He needs to make up his mind.
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RE: Favre - Friday, July 11, 2008 4:22 PM
It is being reported that Favre has asked for a release from the Packers.  This should make things interesting in Green Bay. 
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3483521

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RE: Favre - Friday, July 11, 2008 5:03 PM
From what I understand, the GM has been secretly wanting Brett to retire so he is able to start his own legacy in Green Bay. Not that he doesn't appreciate what he has done for Green Bay, but it is the same sort of situation as Jerry Colangilo had in Chicago with Jordan. That didn't work out to well for him.
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RE: Favre - Friday, July 11, 2008 6:31 PM
He better not end up in Miami and mess up Chad Henne's chance to start.

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RE: Favre - Friday, July 11, 2008 6:44 PM
Lions baby!! LOL

He's going to a team that has a chance at a title run. First that comes to mind is Minnesota. Wouldn't that be great TV?

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RE: Favre - Saturday, July 12, 2008 10:14 AM
Unreal.  Yet another guy who doesn't know when to say when.  I could half way understand coming back to Green Bay (I think it's pretty clear they don't want him) but to ask for a release to play for someone else??  He would basically wreck his legacy to play one more year and for what?  A Super Bowl?  Sorry Brett-there are no openings in Indy or New England but we'll keep your resume on file.  Minnesota?  Here's the vision I have: He signs with Minny, gets hurt the 2nd game of the year, rides the bench all season, the starter goes down in the Wild Card game, Favre comes off the bench to bring some of that 'ol magic back, gets sacked 5 times, throws 4 picks, the Vicodins..er..Vikings lose, he "re-retires", but this time as a fool and washed-up shell of his former self.  Yep. That's the way to be remembered all right. 
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RE: Favre - Saturday, July 12, 2008 12:37 PM

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Unreal.  Yet another guy who doesn't know when to say when.  I could half way understand coming back to Green Bay (I think it's pretty clear they don't want him) but to ask for a release to play for someone else??  He would basically wreck his legacy to play one more year and for what?  A Super Bowl?  Sorry Brett-there are no openings in Indy or New England but we'll keep your resume on file.  Minnesota?  Here's the vision I have: He signs with Minny, gets hurt the 2nd game of the year, rides the bench all season, the starter goes down in the Wild Card game, Favre comes off the bench to bring some of that 'ol magic back, gets sacked 5 times, throws 4 picks, the Vicodins..er..Vikings lose, he "re-retires", but this time as a fool and washed-up shell of his former self.  Yep. That's the way to be remembered all right. 


Your right, i can see it now. Just like everyone saw him have one of his best years of his career, only to not win the MVP because Tom Brady had an other-wordly year. And besides, who cares about redemption? It's not like he threw an interception in overtime of the conference championship to lead the giants to the superbowl or anything. Who wouldn't want to redeem themselves from that?

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RE: Favre - Saturday, July 12, 2008 1:40 PM
   I feel really bad for Aaron Rodgers, he has waited patiently for his opportunity and now that he has it, Favre might take it back from him?  When Favre made the decision to retire the packers moved on, just like Brett should have.  I think it ridiculous we are even talking about him coming out of retirement.  Why even announce retirement if you have any urge to possibly playing football again.  He is a pre-madonna.  

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RE: Favre - Saturday, July 12, 2008 3:31 PM
Because theres been various reports around march that the packers organization pressured him to make an announcement 

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RE: Favre - Monday, July 14, 2008 9:05 AM
Emmitt Smith should have finished in a Cowboys jersey, but instead wore a Cardinals.

Joe Montana should have finished in a 49ers jersey, but instead wore a Cheifs.

Jerry Rice should have finished in a 49ers jersey, but instead wore a Raiders.

Only a few examples, but stars want to keep playing and if their team doesn't want them anymore, they will go find a new team.
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RE: Favre - Monday, July 14, 2008 10:20 AM

Emmitt Smith should have finished in a Cowboys jersey, but instead wore a Cardinals.

Joe Montana should have finished in a 49ers jersey, but instead wore a Cheifs.

Jerry Rice should have finished in a 49ers jersey, but instead wore a Raiders.

 
 
Can't say I agree Scottsdale. Emmitt, sure. AZ brought him in to try to get Sun Devil Stadium to half capacity.
 
But Montana didn't want to sit behind a MVP winning Steve Young and lead the Cheifs to contention. Rice didn't want to be the 2nd option to TO, so he moved on and played for another Super Bowl ring with the Raiders, (then suited up in Denver.)
 
It's not about the uniform at the pro level, it's business. If they can get PT and make a few more mill, more power to them.
 
My beef with Favre is, make up your freeking mind already. He's kept the Packers in limbo for 5 years with his "kiss my butt so I'll return" antics.
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RE: Favre - Monday, July 14, 2008 7:53 PM
Could any grown man make a sadder face?        

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RE: Favre - Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:52 AM

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Emmitt Smith should have finished in a Cowboys jersey, but instead wore a Cardinals.

Joe Montana should have finished in a 49ers jersey, but instead wore a Cheifs.

Jerry Rice should have finished in a 49ers jersey, but instead wore a Raiders.



Can't say I agree Scottsdale. Emmitt, sure. AZ brought him in to try to get Sun Devil Stadium to half capacity.

But Montana didn't want to sit behind a MVP winning Steve Young and lead the Cheifs to contention. Rice didn't want to be the 2nd option to TO, so he moved on and played for another Super Bowl ring with the Raiders, (then suited up in Denver.)

It's not about the uniform at the pro level, it's business. If they can get PT and make a few more mill, more power to them.

My beef with Favre is, make up your freeking mind already. He's kept the Packers in limbo for 5 years with his "kiss my butt so I'll return" antics.

 
 
Who would you rather have as your QB, Aaron Rodgers or Brett Favre this year?
 
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RE: Favre - Tuesday, July 15, 2008 10:36 AM
I thoght your point was that Hall of Fame players should retire wearing the jersey of the team you remember them in, not that Farve is better than Rogers. You didn't mention anything about Rogers or winning next year in your post.
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RE: Favre - Tuesday, July 15, 2008 10:48 AM

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I thoght your point was that Hall of Fame players should retire wearing the jersey of the team you remember them in, not that Farve is better than Rogers. You didn't mention anything about Rogers or winning next year in your post.


Check out my post on 7/8 on this thread.  Favre has his faults, I'll give you that, but he still gives the Packers the best chance to win.

Sorry, for the confusion.  I believe that fans think their players should retire in their original jerseys, and I'm saying that is not the case anymore.  I agree with you that it's a business and guys just want to play.  If not for their original team, then someone else.  I don't have a problem with that at all.

My problem is with the Packers and the way they are handling this situation.  The NFL is a WIN-NOW league.  Brett Favre gives you the best chance to win now.  It's not about what's best in 4 years.  The Packers have one of the Top 4 teams in football this year, but that's only if Brett Favre is playing.
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RE: Favre - Tuesday, July 15, 2008 12:47 PM
Favre won't be anything but a backup with any team as a 17 year veteran isn't the long term answer at QB for any team.

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RE: Favre - Tuesday, July 15, 2008 12:56 PM

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Favre won't be anything but a backup with any team as a 17 year veteran isn't the long term answer at QB for any team.

 
Favre won't ever be a back-up.
 
As I said in my previous post, the NFL is a win-now league and any team that has a chance to win now would and should take him.  Of course he's not going to be around for 5 more years, but who cares.  Half the coaches and players on each team won't be around their same team in 5 years.
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RE: Favre - Tuesday, July 15, 2008 2:33 PM
He wants to come back on a competitive team.  Meaning, a team that has a legitimate shot at the Super Bowl.  Minnesota is one of the few, in my mind, that is missing a QB that can take them there. 

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RE: Favre - Tuesday, July 15, 2008 2:43 PM
Anyone who thinks GB will release him to a division rival is insane, or even a NFC team.

Plus the Iron Hillbilly would never even play for another team, it is GB or nothing.

Personally, I hope he does start for GB, it guarantees Da Bears at least 2 wins this year.

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RE: Favre - Thursday, July 17, 2008 8:37 PM
Predictable, annoying, yet the end result will be very interesting.

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RE: Favre - Saturday, July 19, 2008 12:54 AM
No way are the Packers about to release Favre, nor are they going to trade him to a division rival. They would be crazy to let him go to a team in their division.

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Re: RE: Favre - Monday, July 28, 2008 2:16 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&id=3508012&sportCat=nfl

If the Packers don't trade or release him in a couple days, he should just show up one morning at camp and run out onto the field to stretch. Rogers would probably have a brown stain in his pants....
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Re: RE: Favre - Tuesday, July 29, 2008 1:50 AM
The only way I see Favre being a starter is if a team's regular QB going down with an injury. 

Green Bay isn't about to bring Favre back as the starter.  It appears they are set with Rogers.

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Re: RE: Favre - Tuesday, July 29, 2008 10:17 AM
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The only way I see Favre being a starter is if a team's regular QB going down with an injury. 

Green Bay isn't about to bring Favre back as the starter.  It appears they are set with Rogers.


Favre has the Packers by the balls.  The Packers have no leverage in this situation (they've created) and are now asking teams for a 4th or 5th round pick in the draft.

Can you imagine what will happen if the Packers trade Favre for a 5th round pick and then Aaron Rodgers falls flat on his face....Oh mama, it won't be pretty in Greeen Bay....
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Re: RE: Favre - Tuesday, July 29, 2008 3:56 PM
What would the Vikes give to a team who sent GB a 5th rounder? Are there rules against that?

I can just imagine Gruden's face. Spending a 5th rounder, getting Farve, and trading him for a 2nd rounder!
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Re: RE: Favre - Thursday, July 31, 2008 1:58 PM
I'll take $20 million to stay retired, Alex. 
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Re: RE: Favre - Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:02 PM
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I'll take $20 million to stay retired, Alex. 


Favre can't take this deal.  He'd look like a whore.  He's said all along that he still wanted to play, GB is trying to pay him to shut his mouth.   If he takes the money he looks even worse than he does from jacking them around about retirement.
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Re: RE: Favre - Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:41 PM
Philc


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I'll take $20 million to stay retired, Alex. 


Favre can't take this deal.  He'd look like a whore.  He's said all along that he still wanted to play, GB is trying to pay him to shut his mouth.   If he takes the money he looks even worse than he does from jacking them around about retirement.


He confirmed that he's not taking the money and will probably report either Saturday or Sunday if he's not traded.

I still cannot believe the Packers offered to pay him $20M over 10 years to go away.  Unbelievable.
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Re: RE: Favre - Friday, August 01, 2008 10:24 AM
Philc


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I'll take $20 million to stay retired, Alex. 


Favre can't take this deal.  He'd look like a whore.  He's said all along that he still wanted to play, GB is trying to pay him to shut his mouth.   If he takes the money he looks even worse than he does from jacking them around about retirement.


True, but $20 mil is alot of cash to walk away from, whore or not.  He could set up his family for generations to come.  But, $20 mil to him might seem like $100 to you and me. 
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Re: RE: Favre - Sunday, August 03, 2008 2:13 PM
Apparently, the $20M deal has been on the table since June.  The Packers look more and more stupid every day this goes.

Well, as of Sunday afternoon Favre has been re-instated by the NFL and is flying to Green Bay later this evening.  He'll be taking a physical and on the field Monday.

He has said all along that he wanted to play, well, looks like he's gonna get his shot.
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Re: RE: Favre - Monday, August 04, 2008 12:02 AM
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Philc


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I'll take $20 million to stay retired, Alex. 


Favre can't take this deal.  He'd look like a whore.  He's said all along that he still wanted to play, GB is trying to pay him to shut his mouth.   If he takes the money he looks even worse than he does from jacking them around about retirement.


True, but $20 mil is alot of cash to walk away from, whore or not.  He could set up his family for generations to come.  But, $20 mil to him might seem like $100 to you and me. 


It's a lot of cash, but hopefully he's already put away enough to set his family up for a few generations.

GB looks like a joke in all of this.  BF may be a pain in the rear but he's probably better off moving on.  If AR gets hurt GB will be hosed...

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Re: RE: Favre - Monday, August 04, 2008 10:29 AM
Rodgers was 7-20 with an INT in the endzone during their scrimmage last night.  He got booed off the field.
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Re: RE: Favre - Thursday, August 07, 2008 2:04 AM
Brett Farve traded to the Jets.

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Re: RE: Favre - Thursday, August 07, 2008 9:49 AM
Hopefully this will end this soap opera!

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Re: RE: Favre - Thursday, August 07, 2008 10:10 AM
J....E....T....S....Jets, Jets Jets
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Re: RE: Favre - Friday, August 08, 2008 4:37 PM
what a crazy deal. Lots of twists and turns to it. I like the clause in the trade that if the Jets traded Farve to the Vikings, the Packers would receive 3 first rounders from the Jets.

I'm glad Farve went to the Jets of all places though. Much rather see him there, even though he hurt his legacy a bit, but it would've been real bad if he went to the Vikings. I've always liked Farve even though I'm a Lions fan.


Clemons was just thinking he might've been the starter, now he's probably demanding a trade since Farve will never leave/quit.