Recruiting: OSU's Jim Tressel crushing U-M's Rich Rodriguez

Ouch, I hate to read that headline

http://freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080627/SPORTS06/80627010

...The Daily News reports Ohio State's recruiting victories of late have been all the more sweet because they've come at the expense of rival Michigan. Ohio State coach Jim Tressel has gone head-to-head with new Wolverines coach Rich Rodriguez for seven recruits and has landed six: linebacker Dorian Bell and running back Jordan Hall from Pennsylvania; defensive end Melvin Fellows, offensive lineman Corey Linsley and defensive lineman Adam Bellamy from Ohio; and receiver James Jackson from Michigan.

Phil Callihan
Editor-in-Chief
UMGoBlue.COM

R-Rod is recruiting kids to fit a certain system.  Sometimes those kids are not the top ranked players in the country.  I'm not worried.

On a side note, gotta love the heading in the paper in our own backyard.  Geesh.  Where's the love....

Crushing??

According to Rivals, UM's class is averaging 3.75 stars while OSU's class is averaging 3.78.  That is hardly crushing.  The only difference is volume.  But with that, OSU is basically done with the exception of bout 3-4 more where as UM still has half their scholarships available.  The Free Press should probably try comparing the classes a little closer to signing day.

This is moronic.  RR has had, what, 6 months?  I'd say he's done a lot in a short time.  The Vest has had forever.  More importantly, these star rankings mean exactly squat right now.  But hey, just keep building up that super power OSU.  Makes it all the more sweet when they crash and burn.

"I have marked down losses for Wisconsin, Michigan State, Penn State, and Ohio State. And then there could be others such as Illinois".-BigHouseFootball March 08

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Crushing??

According to Rivals, UM's class is averaging 3.75 stars while OSU's class is averaging 3.78.  That is hardly crushing.  The only difference is volume.  But with that, OSU is basically done with the exception of bout 3-4 more where as UM still has half their scholarships available.  The Free Press should probably try comparing the classes a little closer to signing day.

You hit the nail on the head! I don't understand why the local media is so prone to bashing Michigan. Like Kobe said the other day, "people don't listen unless you've got somebody to throw sh!t against the window". Our average could very well rise above Ohio State's 3.78 stars. Darius Winston has 5, and so does Shaq Evans. If we get one and a few other decent prospects (which I am sure we will) then our class will be deeper than Ohio State's.

Glad to see the Freep living up to its reputation as a rag.

We landed on the moon.

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We landed on the moon.

hey, i know this off topic but.....i just found out that michigan was the one to first perform the "script ohio"at a game in columbus in 1932......ever since the _uck nuts have been performing it exclusivley as their big moment at home games the only thing they added was dotting the i .  IT FIGURES THEIR BIGGEST AND GREATEST TRADITION AND WE CAME UP WITH..........         go bucks my a$$..........  LIVE BLUE FOREVER OR CHOKE ON IT,,,,,,,,IT'S YOUR CHOICE.......

buckeye by birth , WOLVERINE BY CHOICE !! GO BLUE

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We landed on the moon.

Only to surprise tOSU scientists that the moon really isn't made of spare ribs. Darn!

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We landed on the moon.

Only to surprise tOSU scientists that the moon really isn't made of spare ribs. Darn!

If it were though... would you eat it?

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We landed on the moon.

Only to surprise tOSU scientists that the moon really isn't made of spare ribs. Darn!

Serves us right for hiring Michigan graduates.

tOSU was THE leader in graduation rate and a role model for discipline during the Woody Hayes-Earle Bruce era. Cooper destroyed that legacy. RR is UM's version of Cooper. I will enjoy seeing UM fans kicked off your high horse when arrests pile up.

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We landed on the moon.

Only to surprise tOSU scientists that the moon really isn't made of spare ribs. Darn!

If it were though... would you eat it?

 
um ya? is that even a question?

Serves us right for hiring Michigan graduates.

GM stockholder's credo??? 

Of course the bucks hire UOFM grads because tosu grads cant read...i.e Andy Katzenmoyer.....I think the last book he tried to read was Green Eggs and Ham...He had trouble sounding out H...A...M.

Hail To The Cotton Pickin Maize and Blue!


Bob The Greatest Wolverine Ufer

Katz owns a gym that my lacrosse team is going to start training at right by house and he um, well, a nice way of putting it is he chooses his words carefully....

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Of course the bucks hire UOFM grads because tosu grads cant read...i.e Andy Katzenmoyer.....I think the last book he tried to read was Green Eggs and Ham...He had trouble sounding out H...A...M.

 
What are those things, letters?  I can't make sense of any of it.  
 
C'mon, you can't be serious.  Did you fire that barb from your big glass house on the corner of Slocum and Manningham in the town of Kinesiology?  Btw, Katz isn't a grad (not even close), he's just a former student. (and I do use that term loosely)

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Of course the bucks hire UOFM grads because tosu grads cant read...i.e Andy Katzenmoyer.....I think the last book he tried to read was Green Eggs and Ham...He had trouble sounding out H...A...M.

What are those things, letters?  I can't make sense of any of it.  

C'mon, you can't be serious.  Did you fire that barb from your big glass house on the corner of Slocum and Manningham in the town of Kinesiology?  Btw, Katz isn't a grad (not even close), he's just a former student. (and I do use that term loosely)

 
Come back when the Community College of Columbus can actually compete academically with other state schools in Ohio.  UofOSU is definitely Michigan's 'little brother" when it comes to academics...57-41-6
 
My nephew recently finished his first year at O$U in the Honors program and is transferring out because he told me "It was too easy, I wasted my first year of college". 

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Come back when the Community College of Columbus can actually compete academically with other state schools in Ohio.  UofOSU is definitely Michigan's 'little brother" when it comes to academics...57-41-6

My nephew recently finished his first year at O$U in the Honors program and is transferring out because he told me "It was too easy, I wasted my first year of college". 

Nothing screams inferiority like pulling the academic card, or in ND's case, the God card on a football forum.  And nothing screams quality education like a 6 on the wonderlic.  Rivalries are fun.

I don't feel inferior to osu last I checked even after your teams recent dominance we still have a 17 game lead.......Oh how quickly buck fans forget their recent struggles. osu has never lost to MICHIGAN they have just got jobbed 57 freakin times. I HATE anything scarlet&gray

"Every time I come to Michigan all they want to do is Screw me, Srcew me Screw me"! Wayne Hayes AKA the devil.

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I don't feel inferior to osu last I checked even after your teams recent dominance we still have a 17 game lead.......Oh how quickly buck fans forget their recent struggles. osu has never lost to MICHIGAN they have just got jobbed 57 freakin times. I HATE anything scarlet&gray

 
AMEN.Ask the SEC who is better.

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Come back when the Community College of Columbus can actually compete academically with other state schools in Ohio.  UofOSU is definitely Michigan's 'little brother" when it comes to academics...57-41-6

My nephew recently finished his first year at O$U in the Honors program and is transferring out because he told me "It was too easy, I wasted my first year of college". 

Nothing screams inferiority like pulling the academic card, or in ND's case, the God card on a football forum.  And nothing screams quality education like a 6 on the wonderlic.  Rivalries are fun.

You've got something coming to you buckeye. People in scarlet and grey think their so tough because they watched OSU win recent games. Rich Rodriguez is going to plug the nation's fastest talent into his spread and he'll have this rivalry turned around. Wins in this thing come in bunches.

And tOSU is a pretty sad school when it comes to academics compared to Michigan, so you can't argue that card. Just because Mario Manningham was a pot-smoking retard (like most other CFB players) doesn't mean UM is inferior in academics. No wonder everyone hates the Buckeyes, I don't know how you walk the halls with heads that big.

Nothing screams "looking for trouble" when you come to a Michigan site and start talking trash Heisman.  Jeez.  What did you expect?
 
I'll confirm my lack of an inferiority complex by ignoring the rest of your drivel.  As for the spare ribs, I'm all over them!

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Nothing screams inferiority like pulling the academic card, or in ND's case, the God card on a football forum.  And nothing screams quality education like a 6 on the wonderlic.  Rivalries are fun.

And tOSU is a pretty sad school when it comes to academics compared to Michigan, so you can't argue that card. Just because Mario Manningham was a pot-smoking retard (like most other CFB players) doesn't mean UM is inferior in academics. No wonder everyone hates the Buckeyes, I don't know how you walk the halls with heads that big.I just want to add, Mario Manningham was an UNPUNISHED pot-smoking retard. Makes you wonder, doesn't it? 

tOSU was THE leader in graduation rate and a role model for discipline during the Woody Hayes-Earle Bruce era. Cooper destroyed that legacy. RR is UM's version of Cooper. I will enjoy seeing UM fans kicked off your high horse when arrests pile up.

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Nothing screams inferiority like pulling the academic card, or in ND's case, the God card on a football forum.  And nothing screams quality education like a 6 on the wonderlic.  Rivalries are fun.

And tOSU is a pretty sad school when it comes to academics compared to Michigan, so you can't argue that card. Just because Mario Manningham was a pot-smoking retard (like most other CFB players) doesn't mean UM is inferior in academics. No wonder everyone hates the Buckeyes, I don't know how you walk the halls with heads that big.
 
I just want to add, Mario Manningham was an UNPUNISHED pot-smoking retard. Makes you wonder, doesn't it? 

Correction, he did receive a one game suspension.  "UNPUNISHED" only applies to sweatervest and how he handles his team's problems

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Nothing screams inferiority like pulling the academic card, or in ND's case, the God card on a football forum.  And nothing screams quality education like a 6 on the wonderlic.  Rivalries are fun.

And tOSU is a pretty sad school when it comes to academics compared to Michigan, so you can't argue that card. Just because Mario Manningham was a pot-smoking retard (like most other CFB players) doesn't mean UM is inferior in academics. No wonder everyone hates the Buckeyes, I don't know how you walk the halls with heads that big.

I just want to add, Mario Manningham was an UNPUNISHED pot-smoking retard. Makes you wonder, doesn't it? 

 
Here we go again.  Do we need to rollout the rap sheets for the 50th time?  Should we use the "punished" list or the "unpunsihed"?  Considering OSU owns the record for both I'd say it gives you a lot to choose from.  Sorry Ant, you need to find another picnic.  This one isn't good for you.

"I have marked down losses for Wisconsin, Michigan State, Penn State, and Ohio State. And then there could be others such as Illinois".-BigHouseFootball March 08

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Nothing screams inferiority like pulling the academic card, or in ND's case, the God card on a football forum.  And nothing screams quality education like a 6 on the wonderlic.  Rivalries are fun.

And tOSU is a pretty sad school when it comes to academics compared to Michigan, so you can't argue that card. Just because Mario Manningham was a pot-smoking retard (like most other CFB players) doesn't mean UM is inferior in academics. No wonder everyone hates the Buckeyes, I don't know how you walk the halls with heads that big.
 
I just want to add, Mario Manningham was an UNPUNISHED pot-smoking retard. Makes you wonder, doesn't it? 

 
Barking up the wrong tree....

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Here we go again.  Do we need to rollout the rap sheets for the 50th time?  Should we use the "punished" list or the "unpunsihed"?  Considering OSU owns the record for both I'd say it gives you a lot to choose from.  Sorry Ant, you need to find another picnic.  This one isn't good for you.

Wasn't the main argument of UM fans that OSU players went scot-free for all the alleged crimes they committed? Carr is gone, the Bo's regime has come to an end. Now we learn that when UM fans were criticizing OSU players for their off field issues, Manningham had been caught smoking weed. And the only reason why this news came out was because Super Mario admitted that himself. So yes, it does makes me wonder. How many unknown dopeheads were there within the UM program, that iron curtain around the UM program protected.

And I remember that you, TK23, said that Ginn was a criminal as well, who went unpunished. Now there is absolutely nothing to suggest that Ginn was anything but the most docile and well mannered of players off the field. This just suggests to the extent of hipocricy among the UM fan base.

tOSU was THE leader in graduation rate and a role model for discipline during the Woody Hayes-Earle Bruce era. Cooper destroyed that legacy. RR is UM's version of Cooper. I will enjoy seeing UM fans kicked off your high horse when arrests pile up.

so with that logic I guess we can assume that the OSU players that have been caught doing wrong werent the only ones, right?

sit back and enjoy watching us get kicked off our high horse ant

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080701/OPINION03/807010345/1131/SPORTS0201
 

So,what about Ohio State, the Big Ten favorite which has 23 commitments, many of them four-star athletes?
 
"Numbers mean absolutely nothing," Lemming said.
 
"Only the ignorant recruiting fans think that's a big deal. A lot of the great players won't even make their commitments until December and January.The race in recruiting almost always goes to the tortoise, not the hare. People who know recruiting, know what's going on. Michigan, for instance, is having a good year and they could have a great year. People need to be patient."

 
Dead balls on....

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http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080701/OPINION03/807010345/1131/SPORTS0201

So,what about Ohio State, the Big Ten favorite which has 23 commitments, many of them four-star athletes?

"Numbers mean absolutely nothing," Lemming said.

"Only the ignorant recruiting fans think that's a big deal. A lot of the great players won't even make their commitments until December and January.The race in recruiting almost always goes to the tortoise, not the hare. People who know recruiting, know what's going on. Michigan, for instance, is having a good year and they could have a great year. People need to be patient."

Dead balls on....

 
You beat me to it ScottDale!!! lol

  
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FREE TK!

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R-Rod is recruiting kids to fit a certain system.  Sometimes those kids are not the top ranked players in the country.  I'm not worried.

Now that was balls on lol!!!   Great post Scottsdale!!!!!!!

---recruiting analyst Tom Lemming -------

"They're recruiting their type of player," Lemming said. "They're not recruiting what the Internet sites tell them to recruit. You recruit guys who fit in a system.

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080701/OPINION03/807010345/1004

  
...... 
FREE TK!

Give RR a couple years and this story will be basically reversed. He's getting players to fit the style of football that he's bringing to UM.
 
    If you look at his recruiting classes at WV, he doesn't need  only 4 and 5 star recruits to win: 04'- 5*= 0; 4*=2; 3*=7. 05'- 5*=1; 4*=13. 06' 5*=0; 4*=0; 3*=10.    32-5 record over the last 3 years with these players.

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so with that logic I guess we can assume that the OSU players that have been caught doing wrong werent the only ones, right?

sit back and enjoy watching us get kicked off our high horse ant

I never made that statement. I was simply repeating what you UM fan bases always accused us of. Just fyi.

And I will be watching. Five years from now, we'll see where RR's regime is in the spectrum of off-field issues.

tOSU was THE leader in graduation rate and a role model for discipline during the Woody Hayes-Earle Bruce era. Cooper destroyed that legacy. RR is UM's version of Cooper. I will enjoy seeing UM fans kicked off your high horse when arrests pile up.

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so with that logic I guess we can assume that the OSU players that have been caught doing wrong werent the only ones, right?

sit back and enjoy watching us get kicked off our high horse ant

I never made that statement. I was simply repeating what you UM fan bases always accused us of. Just fyi.

And I will be watching. Five years from now, we'll see where RR's regime is in the spectrum of off-field issues.

im not trying to argue here, so forgive me if it seems that way but can you explain to me why  people seem to think RR lets players run wild. no NCAA violations, a few minor dust ups that happen at any college, and people start saying RR is a win at all costs coach and doesnt care what his players do.

^Most of that talk is coming from ant. Wishful thinking, I presume.

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so with that logic I guess we can assume that the OSU players that have been caught doing wrong werent the only ones, right?

sit back and enjoy watching us get kicked off our high horse ant

I never made that statement. I was simply repeating what you UM fan bases always accused us of. Just fyi.

And I will be watching. Five years from now, we'll see where RR's regime is in the spectrum of off-field issues.

im not trying to argue here, so forgive me if it seems that way but can you explain to me why  people seem to think RR lets players run wild. no NCAA violations, a few minor dust ups that happen at any college, and people start saying RR is a win at all costs coach and doesnt care what his players do.

 
 
Well we get our first oppertunity to see how RR is going to deal with off field issues with this whole Grad DUI thing.  I hope it's handled well and sets a standard for the rest of the team. 

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^Most of that talk is coming from ant. Wishful thinking, I presume.

For your sake, I hope so.

tOSU was THE leader in graduation rate and a role model for discipline during the Woody Hayes-Earle Bruce era. Cooper destroyed that legacy. RR is UM's version of Cooper. I will enjoy seeing UM fans kicked off your high horse when arrests pile up.

Do you get the feeling that this season is going to be historic? Hopefully they'll be mentioning 2008 in the same breath as 1969...

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I don't feel inferior to osu last I checked even after your teams recent dominance we still have a 17 game lead.......Oh how quickly buck fans forget their recent struggles. osu has never lost to MICHIGAN they have just got jobbed 57 freakin times. I HATE anything scarlet&gray

AMEN.Ask the SEC who is better.

 
Well said Woverinezz, lol!