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Five Sports Franchises We Love to Hate - Friday, May 02, 2008 1:54 PM
Found this on SI today:
 
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/si_blogs/scorecard/daily_list/
 
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RE: Five Sports Franchises We Love to Hate - Friday, May 02, 2008 2:00 PM
You got to hate the Buckeyes.
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RE: Five Sports Franchises We Love to Hate - Friday, May 02, 2008 3:41 PM

(By the way, we get it: You're THE Ohio State University. Nice sweater vests.)

 
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RE: Five Sports Franchises We Love to Hate - Friday, May 02, 2008 5:45 PM
Does anyone know where THE OSU started? I never heard it until a few years ago and I absolutely hate it. I refuse to say it. Is there another Ohio State out there we don't know about? Are they schizophrenic? What is this all about?

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RE: Five Sports Franchises We Love to Hate - Friday, May 02, 2008 6:03 PM
Yep that is why I always say THE Ohio University whenever I talk about the mighty bobcats!!!
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RE: Five Sports Franchises We Love to Hate - Saturday, May 03, 2008 2:34 AM
yeah first it was OSU then it was TOSU now all the sudden it's TUOS personally I like the newest reiteration the best. Can't put my finger on who came upo with that one though.

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RE: Five Sports Franchises We Love to Hate - Saturday, May 03, 2008 11:17 AM
It is TOSU because:
 
The
Overrated
School
University

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RE: Five Sports Franchises We Love to Hate - Saturday, May 03, 2008 3:19 PM

ORIGINAL: umgoblue14

It is TOSU because:

The
Overrated
School
University

 
Where did Michigan start in the 2007 polls?

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RE: Five Sports Franchises We Love to Hate - Saturday, May 03, 2008 4:13 PM


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originally posted by MaizeinTN

Exactly what this has to do with the forum WOLVERINE FOOTBALL is beyond me


Couldn't agree with you more!!!!!!!!!!!!

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RE: Five Sports Franchises We Love to Hate - Saturday, May 03, 2008 5:15 PM
Why are the Bucks #4 most hated??
 
Its not cause they win all the time.....
 
Its not cause of their HC  ( Tressel seems like a nice guy)
 
Its cause 75% of their fan base are jerks and its not just Michigan fans saying it anymore lol
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RE: Five Sports Franchises We Love to Hate - Saturday, May 03, 2008 5:56 PM


ORIGINAL: Bucki78


ORIGINAL: umgoblue14

It is TOSU because:

The
Overrated
School
University


Where did Michigan start in the 2007 polls?


but we won our bowl game and represented our conference with a "W" over an SEC. something somebody hasnt been able to to.

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RE: Five Sports Franchises We Love to Hate - Saturday, May 03, 2008 10:41 PM
I thought it was THE University of Ohio St.???? 
 
 
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RE: Five Sports Franchises We Love to Hate - Monday, May 05, 2008 2:04 AM

ORIGINAL: section43row50


ORIGINAL: Bucki78


ORIGINAL: umgoblue14

It is TOSU because:

The
Overrated
School
University


Where did Michigan start in the 2007 polls?


but we won our bowl game and represented our conference with a "W" over an SEC. something somebody hasnt been able to to.


Congrats on winning the Capital One Bowl in a season in which everything was set up for Michigan to go to the BCS championship.  Good thing for the Wolverines the opponent in Orlando was from the Southeastern Conference and not the Southern Conference.

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RE: Five Sports Franchises We Love to Hate - Monday, May 05, 2008 9:04 AM

ORIGINAL: Wolverine4Life

Does anyone know where THE OSU started? I never heard it until a few years ago and I absolutely hate it. I refuse to say it. Is there another Ohio State out there we don't know about? Are they schizophrenic? What is this all about?

 
When tOSU was first founded in 1870, it was called Ohio Agricultural and Mechanical College. In 1878, they wanted to change the name to Ohio State University, but Ohio University was already established. They named themselves The Ohio State University, as a way to separate themselves from OU.
 
While looking for this, I ran across this gem in the Urban Dictionary under the listing of Ohio State Buckeyes:
 
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Ohio+State+Buckeyes&defid=1154217
 
 
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RE: Five Sports Franchises We Love to Hate - Monday, May 05, 2008 9:38 AM
OSU, Lakers, Boston teams, Yankees....you think middling teams like the Indians, Purdue and the Supersonics would ever make this list?

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RE: Five Sports Franchises We Love to Hate - Monday, May 05, 2008 11:15 AM
BlueSteel ...
 
Wow, I didn't know that stuff.  I thought the name was TUOS ... that it didn't stand for anything ... that the name was just TUOS .... maybe an old Indian name or something.

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RE: Five Sports Franchises We Love to Hate - Monday, May 05, 2008 11:27 AM

ORIGINAL: jeff4bucks

OSU, Lakers, Boston teams, Yankees....you think middling teams like the Indians, Purdue and the Supersonics would ever make this list?

 
Ah yes.  But there is a difference.  People love to hate the Lakers and Yankees because they are/were perennial champions, just like people hated the Cowboys and the Raiders in the 70's.  When you have consistently racked up championships, people are going to hate you.  Buuuut...that doesn't quite explain OSU as you're not exactly racking up championships and being mentioned in the same breath as the Yankees, Patriots, or Lakers is comedic.  Me thinks you made the list for other reasons.  (Hint: Your fan base might be the biggest clue.)
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RE: Five Sports Franchises We Love to Hate - Monday, May 05, 2008 11:52 AM

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BlueSteel ...

Wow, I didn't know that stuff.  I thought the name was TUOS ... that it didn't stand for anything ... that the name was just TUOS .... maybe an old Indian name or something.

 
Yes, GoBlueToday, it is. In fact , it's pronounced "O-hi-O" which is Algonquin for "the good land."

 

ORIGINAL: TK23Blue
(Hint: Your fan base might be the biggest clue.)

 
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RE: Five Sports Franchises We Love to Hate - Monday, May 05, 2008 4:40 PM

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People love to hate the Lakers and Yankees because they are/were perennial champions, just like people hated the Cowboys and the Raiders in the 70's.  When you have consistently racked up championships, people are going to hate you.  Buuuut...that doesn't quite explain OSU as you're not exactly racking up championships and being mentioned in the same breath as the Yankees, Patriots, or Lakers is comedic.  Me thinks you made the list for other reasons.  (Hint: Your fan base might be the biggest clue.)


I keep hearing this fan base argument for why everyone hates Ohio State, yet when I go to away OSU games I always hear, "I hope you guys beat Michigan."  Since my family and I are such **** Buckeye fans, I would think that one of these trips I would hear the opposite.

My experience of people hating on OSU the past few years is because many think they cruise through an easy conference schedule and get an undeserved high ranking because of it.  It is hard to argue against this when the 2nd best team in the conference loses at home to a I-AA team.
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RE: Five Sports Franchises We Love to Hate - Monday, May 05, 2008 4:52 PM
What they say to your face and what they say behind your backs are two entirely different things.
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RE: Five Sports Franchises We Love to Hate - Monday, May 05, 2008 4:52 PM
Bucki78, you are pretty high and mighty about your Buckeyes. Short term memory I guess.   I gurantee App State would have beat any of the clown school's OSU played out of conference last year.  I'm just glad you went out of state for some matchups this year.  Considering the troubles you had stopping Illinois's spread offense i would have liked to see a OSU/App State matchup. 
 
You are obviously not the normal buckeye fan.  I have friends/family that are buckeyes that are great people too, but that's not the majority from my experiences. If you are so confident about your buckeye fans walk around columbus during football season wearing maize and blue or put a michigan sticker on your car for the day and park it on High St.    Then you might get a different perspective.
 
 

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RE: Five Sports Franchises We Love to Hate - Monday, May 05, 2008 5:11 PM

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I keep hearing this fan base argument for why everyone hates Ohio State, yet when I go to away OSU games I always hear, "I hope you guys beat Michigan."  Since my family and I are such **** Buckeye fans, I would think that one of these trips I would hear the opposite.

My experience of people hating on OSU the past few years is because many think they cruise through an easy conference schedule and get an undeserved high ranking because of it.  It is hard to argue against this when the 2nd best team in the conference loses at home to a I-AA team.


now see you're just flat out being disrespectful. it would be one thing to make comments like the ones you have in this thread on a osu board but its another to come and say it on a Michigan forum. i don't appreciate it.
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RE: Five Sports Franchises We Love to Hate - Monday, May 05, 2008 6:25 PM

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People love to hate the Lakers and Yankees because they are/were perennial champions, just like people hated the Cowboys and the Raiders in the 70's.  When you have consistently racked up championships, people are going to hate you.  Buuuut...that doesn't quite explain OSU as you're not exactly racking up championships and being mentioned in the same breath as the Yankees, Patriots, or Lakers is comedic.  Me thinks you made the list for other reasons.  (Hint: Your fan base might be the biggest clue.)


I keep hearing this fan base argument for why everyone hates Ohio State, yet when I go to away OSU games I always hear, "I hope you guys beat Michigan."  Since my family and I are such **** Buckeye fans, I would think that one of these trips I would hear the opposite.

My experience of people hating on OSU the past few years is because many think they cruise through an easy conference schedule and get an undeserved high ranking because of it.  

 
You dont become the #4 ranked hated cause you " cruise through an easy conference schedule"
That only happen twice lol ... And its not ALL the fans, just like 75%  .. Why is it so hard for some Buckeye fans to understand that the OSU fan base isnt the " friendliest " around lol.... I know that some Michigan fans are conceited , its just how it is lol.. It doesnt bother me
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RE: Five Sports Franchises We Love to Hate - Monday, May 05, 2008 9:03 PM
And why is it that everyone that I see across the country can not stand OSU and their fans?

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RE: Five Sports Franchises We Love to Hate - Monday, May 05, 2008 9:05 PM
 
 
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RE: Five Sports Franchises We Love to Hate - Monday, May 05, 2008 9:14 PM
Now I have personally been all over high street, and partied in the front yard of a house on a main side street before the Michigan OSU game 2 years ago 11-0 vs 11-0 wearing my Chuck Woodson away jersey. I clearly knew what I was getting myself into, but wasnt sure how bad it would get. Everyone that walked by gave the ass hole chant, we had footballs and tennis balls thrown at us from yards away, pretty standard stuff. Actually had some people invite me over and gave me a drink and just wanted to talk and get my opinion on things which was a surprise. My question is, cause I have never done it before, what it would be like wearing a troy smith jersey around the big house before the game. And is definately something I may try and experiment with in 2 years just so I can see what it is like from the other side. I am not all that familiar with the campus and big house area. I know the high school and the golf course are right there and main places to park and tailgate. I dont think there is much student housing around like there is at OSU. But it is definately something I plan on trying to do next time the game is in AA. I think OSU fans are some of the most obnoxious people out there, but thats because whenever I am around them lately they win, and I am wearing a Michigan shirt. I would challenge an OSU fan to wear a Michigan uni around high street and columbus the day of the game and see what its like.

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RE: Five Sports Franchises We Love to Hate - Tuesday, May 06, 2008 12:08 AM

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Bucki78, you are pretty high and mighty about your Buckeyes. Short term memory I guess.   I gurantee App State would have beat any of the clown school's OSU played out of conference last year.  I'm just glad you went out of state for some matchups this year.  Considering the troubles you had stopping Illinois's spread offense i would have liked to see a OSU/App State matchup.


From 2006-2008 Ohio State will have played @ Austin, Seattle & LA.  In the same time Michigan will have played only 2 non-conference road games, both being that terribly long trip to South Bend.  How many thousands of square feet do you have in that glass house of yours?

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RE: Five Sports Franchises We Love to Hate - Tuesday, May 06, 2008 8:14 AM
HAhahahahahahahahahahahah hes one of those bandwagon buckeye fans!!!!!!!! he cant name any players unless its within the last 5 years

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RE: Five Sports Franchises We Love to Hate - Tuesday, May 06, 2008 8:21 AM
Why do you even care and try to defend yourself when you know every little word you say more people are going to criticize you! Yes we know your team has been good the last 5 years. and no we dont care about who you play and how you did. As michigan fans we are always going to hate you OSU fans. but i will have to say this fans up in Ann Arbor are not asses like 85 percent of the OSU fans. i know this living in c bus for a good chunk of my life i been to the last 5 osu michigan games and OSU fans taunting is like a million time worse than what people do in AA. At the shoe if you wear anything michigan your guarenteed to get a drenching of beer during the game. ive learned to accept it. but in AA all you get is the loud taunting. the problem with OSU is that OSU football is the only thing the state has to take pride in a fans take it way to far. But OSU has well earned their title on this list. Who knows though PSU might just steal it from you, slowly they are becoming real bad too.

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RE: Five Sports Franchises We Love to Hate - Tuesday, May 06, 2008 8:36 AM

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Bucki78, you are pretty high and mighty about your Buckeyes. Short term memory I guess.   I gurantee App State would have beat any of the clown school's OSU played out of conference last year.  I'm just glad you went out of state for some matchups this year.  Considering the troubles you had stopping Illinois's spread offense i would have liked to see a OSU/App State matchup. 

 
Where Appy State would have fallen into tOSU's strength of schedule:
 
FINAL College Football 2007 through games of 2008 January 7 Monday

1   LSU                  A  =  93.39   12   2   76.26(  11)
11  Ohio State           A  =  87.48   11   2   71.25(  53)
21  Michigan             A  =  82.27    9   4   73.89(  37)
26  Penn State           A  =  80.60    9   4   70.00(  63)
30  Illinois             A  =  79.27    9   4   73.12(  42)
36  Wisconsin            A  =  77.83    9   4   70.84(  57)


44  Appalachian State    AA =  75.73   13   2   59.66( 123)


47  Michigan State       A  =  75.29    7   6   71.35(  52)
55  Washington           A  =  73.81    4   9   78.44(   2)
57  Purdue               A  =  73.76    8   5   67.80(  71)
86  Northwestern         A  =  65.30    6   6   67.92(  70)
105 Youngstown State     AA =  60.83    7   4   55.00( 141)
123 Minnesota            A  =  57.72    1  11   71.12(  54)
127 Akron                A  =  56.67    4   8   64.05(  96)
139 Kent State           A  =  53.41    3   9   63.27( 102)

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RE: Five Sports Franchises We Love to Hate - Tuesday, May 06, 2008 10:34 AM
The fact is, OSU could beat Michigan the next 10 years in a row but their fans will never escape the inferiority complex they suffer from when it comes to anything-Michigan.  They are obsessed with everything we say and do. (Could help to explain the Buck fans on this forum who are 'Wolverine Immortals'.)  Maybe Bucki78 does hear "Beat Michigan" at a lot of the road games he goes to, but apparently these aren't the people who voted in the "5 Sports Franchises We Love To Hate".  This is not Michigan fans hating OSU.  These everybody else in the free world.  Your fight is with them, not us.
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RE: Five Sports Franchises We Love to Hate - Tuesday, May 06, 2008 11:26 AM

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The fact is, OSU could beat Michigan the next 10 years in a row but their fans will never escape the inferiority complex they suffer from when it comes to anything-Michigan.  They are obsessed with everything we say and do. (Could help to explain the Buck fans on this forum who are 'Wolverine Immortals'.)  Maybe Bucki78 does hear "Beat Michigan" at a lot of the road games he goes to, but apparently these aren't the people who voted in the "5 Sports Franchises We Love To Hate".  This is not Michigan fans hating OSU.  These everybody else in the free world.  Your fight is with them, not us.

 
Very well said TK--
 
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RE: Five Sports Franchises We Love to Hate - Tuesday, May 06, 2008 11:52 AM
Bucki78- What do you expect to find on a WOLVERINE forum?
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RE: Five Sports Franchises We Love to Hate - Tuesday, May 06, 2008 12:07 PM

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I keep hearing this fan base argument for why everyone hates Ohio State, yet when I go to away OSU games I always hear, "I hope you guys beat Michigan."  Since my family and I are such **** Buckeye fans, I would think that one of these trips I would hear the opposite.

My experience of people hating on OSU the past few years is because many think they cruise through an easy conference schedule and get an undeserved high ranking because of it.  It is hard to argue against this when the 2nd best team in the conference loses at home to a I-AA team.


now see you're just flat out being disrespectful. it would be one thing to make comments like the ones you have in this thread on a osu board but its another to come and say it on a Michigan forum. i don't appreciate it.


How is he being disrespectful?  Because he mentioned a FACT that you don't want to be reminded of?  I wish sometimes this board would get less defensive about Michigan and more objective about topics.  Our loss to App State added a tremendous amount of fuel to the fire that the Big Ten is a weak conference.  So has OSU's last two performances in the national championship games....although the nation likes to forget OSU outgained LSU this past year.

I believe the nation as a whole tends to dislike Ohio State for a variety of reasons, part of which is their "coasting through an easy Big Ten Sched" and part of which is the few Ohio State fans that give the whole fan base a bad name by rioting in the streets and harassing opposing fans.  But lets face it guys, a lot of people hate Michigan too, because we are proud (they call it arrogant ) of our tradition and academic excellence. 
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RE: Five Sports Franchises We Love to Hate - Tuesday, May 06, 2008 4:02 PM

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I keep hearing this fan base argument for why everyone hates Ohio State, yet when I go to away OSU games I always hear, "I hope you guys beat Michigan."  Since my family and I are such **** Buckeye fans, I would think that one of these trips I would hear the opposite.

My experience of people hating on OSU the past few years is because many think they cruise through an easy conference schedule and get an undeserved high ranking because of it.  It is hard to argue against this when the 2nd best team in the conference loses at home to a I-AA team.


now see you're just flat out being disrespectful. it would be one thing to make comments like the ones you have in this thread on a osu board but its another to come and say it on a Michigan forum. i don't appreciate it.


How is he being disrespectful?  Because he mentioned a FACT that you don't want to be reminded of?  I wish sometimes this board would get less defensive about Michigan and more objective about topics.  Our loss to App State added a tremendous amount of fuel to the fire that the Big Ten is a weak conference.  So has OSU's last two performances in the national championship games....although the nation likes to forget OSU outgained LSU this past year.

I believe the nation as a whole tends to dislike Ohio State for a variety of reasons, part of which is their "coasting through an easy Big Ten Sched" and part of which is the few Ohio State fans that give the whole fan base a bad name by rioting in the streets and harassing opposing fans.  But lets face it guys, a lot of people hate Michigan too, because we are proud (they call it arrogant ) of our tradition and academic excellence. 


It's not disrespectful to say we lost to App St. It's disrespectful the way he said it. Just because somewhere around 80% of college football fans are completely ignorant of anything outside their own team that became much bigger than it should have been. It was a huge upset, yes, but they were a good football team and on that day they showed it. To be honest, I think OSU biting it on the biggest stage two years in a row (along with us and ILL disappearing in the Rose Bowl) has been a much bigger hit than losing to ASU. OSU fans have no reason to get condescending. You have beat for a few years now. Just like we did in the years before. Try to be an adult about it.

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RE: Five Sports Franchises We Love to Hate - Tuesday, May 06, 2008 4:54 PM
I think what he is saying that the justification the Bucknut was using was an deliberate, thinly veiled jab at UM rather than a legitimate logical reasoning as to why his team fails to win championships. Typical response by many posters to project failure on your rival.

So, disrespectful? Sure, no question it was deliberate, but I kind of run with the mentality that that's to be expected in the Internet message board community. :)


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RE: Five Sports Franchises We Love to Hate - Tuesday, May 06, 2008 9:02 PM

ORIGINAL: Harbaugh04


ORIGINAL: Bucki78


ORIGINAL: TK23Blue

People love to hate the Lakers and Yankees because they are/were perennial champions, just like people hated the Cowboys and the Raiders in the 70's.  When you have consistently racked up championships, people are going to hate you.  Buuuut...that doesn't quite explain OSU as you're not exactly racking up championships and being mentioned in the same breath as the Yankees, Patriots, or Lakers is comedic.  Me thinks you made the list for other reasons.  (Hint: Your fan base might be the biggest clue.)


I keep hearing this fan base argument for why everyone hates Ohio State, yet when I go to away OSU games I always hear, "I hope you guys beat Michigan."  Since my family and I are such **** Buckeye fans, I would think that one of these trips I would hear the opposite.

My experience of people hating on OSU the past few years is because many think they cruise through an easy conference schedule and get an undeserved high ranking because of it.  


You dont become the #4 ranked hated cause you " cruise through an easy conference schedule"
That only happen twice lol ... And its not ALL the fans, just like 75%  .. Why is it so hard for some Buckeye fans to understand that the OSU fan base isnt the " friendliest " around lol.... I know that some Michigan fans are conceited , its just how it is lol.. It doesnt bother me
Some?

It feels good to be hated. But I am surprised ND isn't on the list. I guess more than a decade of fall from the elite programs will do that to you.

btw, TK23, on the "inferiority complex." It made my day.
tOSU was THE leader in graduation rate and a role model for discipline during the Woody Hayes-Earle Bruce era. Cooper destroyed that legacy. RR is UM's version of Cooper. I will enjoy seeing UM fans kicked off your high horse when arrests pile up.

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RE: Five Sports Franchises We Love to Hate - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:43 AM
bucki does that not make you think ummm please beat the WINNIGEST football team in the NCAA, like a fan at a royals game say hey I hope you beat the yankees...
It does not mean hey we dont think you guys are a holes just beat THE BEST. Most people want to see the best beat unless they are your team.
 
Using that same logic every time I am at a home game where the other teams fans have traveled to see the BIG HOUSE all they can say in the tailgate is I can not belive how great the fans are here we made the mistake of going  to colonbus and those were the biggest arse"s of fans I have ever seen.  I will NEVER tell someone to go to a game there.  NOT even my worst enemy because they dont know what a fan is.  Just how they can cause damage to their property.
 
I have also been to many road games including sparty and they all echo the same.  I think the words are hey dont worry this isnt colonbus we are fans of our team not vandals...  If you win we hate you but we wont try to assault you on your way back to your car.
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RE: Five Sports Franchises We Love to Hate - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:55 AM

ORIGINAL: Philc

Bucki78- What do you expect to find on a WOLVERINE forum?


I expect to find this:

ORIGINAL: umwolverinefan13

HAhahahahahahahahahahahah hes one of those bandwagon buckeye fans!!!!!!!! he cant name any players unless its within the last 5 years

and Michigan fans have yet to disappoint.



ORIGINAL: Scott Duncan

How many little brother fans are there in the UM football forum?  ND fans??  Answer--zero, it is exactly as you stated an inferiority complex that most "University of Ohio State" fans suffer from.  I certainly don't lurk or hang out at Bucknuts--why would I?


I like this forum not because I am obsessed with Michigan but because I enjoy discussing topics I like with people that have different points of view.  It is getting harder to find but there are still some posters that try to stay objective:


ORIGINAL: umich1

How is he being disrespectful?  Because he mentioned a FACT that you don't want to be reminded of?  I wish sometimes this board would get less defensive about Michigan and more objective about topics.  Our loss to App State added a tremendous amount of fuel to the fire that the Big Ten is a weak conference.  So has OSU's last two performances in the national championship games....although the nation likes to forget OSU outgained LSU this past year.

I believe the nation as a whole tends to dislike Ohio State for a variety of reasons, part of which is their "coasting through an easy Big Ten Sched" and part of which is the few Ohio State fans that give the whole fan base a bad name by rioting in the streets and harassing opposing fans.  But lets face it guys, a lot of people hate Michigan too, because we are proud (they call it arrogant ) of our tradition and academic excellence.

I still miss UofMJess and I regret that I was never able to take him up on his offer of getting together for a couple of beers. 



ORIGINAL: egami

I think what he is saying that the justification the Bucknut was using was an deliberate, thinly veiled jab at UM rather than a legitimate logical reasoning as to why his team fails to win championships. Typical response by many posters to project failure on your rival.


I was not using Michigan's loss to ASU as a reason why OSU failed to win the NC last year.  I was using it as a reason why many think the Big Ten is overrated.  Last year many of the posters here were screaming about how stupid OSU and PSU fans were for cheering when Michigan lost to ASU and they were right.  Now I am saying the same thing but somehow it is disrespectful.  I guess it is true that only Nixon can go to China.


ORIGINAL: Wolverine4Life

Just because somewhere around 80% of college football fans are completely ignorant of anything outside their own team that became much bigger than it should have been.


So far 25 people have participated in this thread.  Would you please tell me which 5 are not completely ignornant of anything outside of their own team?


ORIGINAL: Wolverine4Life

To be honest, I think OSU biting it on the biggest stage two years in a row (along with us and ILL disappearing in the Rose Bowl) has been a much bigger hit than losing to ASU.


In terms of conference strength you maybe right because bowl games are how many compare conferences but please don't tell me you would rather see your team lose to a I-AA team than lose in the championship game. 

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RE: Five Sports Franchises We Love to Hate - Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:22 AM
Bucki as much as this pains me I agree with you.  I would take 4 NC game loses over the ASU  game.  At least you were there.  But saying bowl games are how people compare confrences is not true.  What is the BIG TEN's record against the SEC in the last 2 yrs bowl games?  Overwhelmingly in favor of the BIG TEN but all anyone talks about is the sec against osu in the last 2 nc games.
I will say this as much as I do not like the school down south I hope every year we are both 11 and 0 heading into that middle sat in Nov.  Its great for the Big Ten and great for THE BEST RIVIALRY in all of sport.  But dont let this post make you think I EVER root for the colonbus.  Good luck to you but I think it is time for our 9-1 streak.  And in the middle of that dont think you to wont be homering it and picking up on whatever little chink there is in our armor.
 
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