It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness...

As you will recall, last month both Kevin Grady of Michigan and Doug Worthington of tUOS were both arrested for OVI.  In addition to the OVI charge, Worthington was also charged with speeding and driving a vehicle with plates not registered to it. 

It should also be noted that Kevin Grady is 22 and that Doug Worthington is 20. 

Given the complete facts listed below, we have an under aged person arrested for OVI, plus two other charges and a legal aged person with 1 charge.  One would think that the punishments for each would be about the same, or maybe a little more harsh for the under aged person who was charged with three counts, instead of one, right?

Wrong.

Doug Worthington has never been suspended from the team.   He's never missed a practice or workout with the team.   Today, St. Tressel said "As far as Worthington goes, Doug will be suited up and ready to go." 

Meanwhile, Kevin Grady has been suspended since his arrest and will be suspended for the season opener against Utah it's unclear when he'll return.

St. Tressel is some disciplinarian, huh?  Just Win, Baby!  

I can hardly wait to hear the Buckeye's spin on this.

The facts:

July 26, 2008:  Ohio State defensive tackle Doug Worthington, 20, was arrested over the weekend and charged with operating a vehicle while intoxicated.  He had a blood-alcohol level of .095.  According to OSU campus police records, he was charged with speeding, OVI and was also cited for driving a vehicle with plates not registered to it. 

According to athletic department policy, first-time offenders must undergo alcohol counseling but are not automatically suspended. Buckeyes coach Jim Tressel was not available for comment Monday.  (http://www.cleveland.com/osu/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/sports/121732023914440.xml&coll=2)

August 4, 2008: Worthington is permitted to practice with team.  Tressel offered no more insight into the status of defensive tackle Doug Worthington, recently arrested and charged with a DUI. Worthington suffered no obvious demotion on the depth chart, as he was lining up with the top four tackles during drills.   (http://www.cleveland.com/buckeyeblog/index.ssf/2008/08/ohio_state_football_terry_at_f.html)

August 27, 2008: "As far as Worthington goes, Doug will be suited up and ready to go," Tressel said yesterday. "Exactly when he'll get his car keys back (be sent into the game), I don't know that answer at this moment. But it won't be at the beginning."  (http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/sports/stories/2008/08/27/osufb_notes27.ART_ART_08-27-08_C3_Q7B59G5.html?sid=101)
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July 2, 2008: Michigan running back Kevin Grady, 22, was arrested and charged with DUI.  He had a blood-alcohol level of 0.281.  Michigan coach Rich Rodriguez said Thursday that junior running back Kevin Grady has been suspended from the team after the former East Grand Rapids standout was charged July 9 with drunken driving.

"He's been suspended from the team, and is no longer working out with the guys," Rodriguez said at the Big Ten football media day. "He's working out on his own.  He's still attending classes.    (http://blog.mlive.com/grpress/2008/07/university_of_michigan_suspend.html)

August 4, 2008: Grady is permitted to return to practicing with the team, but is still suspended.  "He's still suspended as far as actual games, but he's practicing," Rodriguez said after Monday's workout. "He's done enough to earn his status back on the team, but he's not done enough yet to warrant playing time. There'll be some playing suspension, but that's yet to be determined."  (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3519448)  

August 25, 2008:  As expected, Michigan coach Rich Rodriguez announced today that junior running back Kevin Grady will be suspended for the season opener against Utah. Grady's DUI arrest on July 2 prompted the suspension, and it's unclear when he'll return. 
(http://myespn.go.com/blogs/bigten/0-1-331/Grady-suspension-shouldn-t-hurt-Michigan.html)
 

See you in another life, brother.

This was one of those "unknown" areas with RichRod-how would he handle the discipline aspect of the program. We all know that Carr was a disciplinarian and we wondered how Rich would deal with these types of things. Would he turn a blind eye ala Tressel, or would he keep the Michigan Way. I'm very happy with the way he has dealt with this situation.

"Jim Tressel's DNA is linked to the Devil at some point, I'm sure of it."
-Doug Karsch "The Big Show"

part of me thinks  its good to discipline these kids...

part of me thinks  "if they aint in jail , let em play"

The first one can hurt a teams chances by losing a key player

The second one can help you win a national championship and the only thing bad that happens is fans of other teams talk crap about you.


hmmmm.


p.s. I'm only kidding, because while not suspending these players may help right now, it will give the team a bad rap in the future and recruiting will go away and nobody will want to go there.  Look at Miami.  

I could really care less how Tressel runs his team.  They are ranked #2 right now and have been dominant for years.  If this stuff hurts them in the future then good, but if it doesn't  then maybe he's smart.

BigHouseFootball


This was one of those "unknown" areas with RichRod-how would he handle the discipline aspect of the program. We all know that Carr was a disciplinarian and we wondered how Rich would deal with these types of things. Would he turn a blind eye ala Tressel, or would he keep the Michigan Way. I'm very happy with the way he has dealt with this situation.

I agree with you, BHF.  This was a good litmus test for RichRod and I say that he's passed with flying colors. 

See you in another life, brother.

 did u expect anything different, there is no discipline at the sucknut factory.  i'm just glad  RR showed,  when u play for the greatest program in college history u tow the line or pay the price regardless of your importance to the team.
 once again blOwSU is sucking hind tit. (good place for them)

buckeye by birth , WOLVERINE BY CHOICE !! GO BLUE

I'm sure the ohio faithfuls will rest their argument on the fact that he "only" blew a .095.  However, drunk driving is drunk driving.  I still don't understand how people are giving OWI instead of DUI's when they are over the legal limit.  There was a multiple page thread on Grady and I certainly hope this turns into the same thing when pathetic ohio state supporters come along trying to defend Tressel for his decision in not taking action on this kid.  Not that any day is a good one for ohio state, but this is certainly a sad, sad day!!  

The ONLY real question is this: Is Worthington a starter?  That's The Vest's moral compass and key factor in any decision he makes. 

"I have marked down losses for Wisconsin, Michigan State, Penn State, and Ohio State. And then there could be others such as Illinois".-BigHouseFootball March 08

WOLVERINE4EVER64


 did u expect anything different, there is no discipline at the sucknut factory.  i'm just glad  RR showed,  when u play for the greatest program in college history u tow the line or pay the price regardless of your importance to the team.
once again blOwSU is sucking hind tit. (good place for them)

Read the posting guidelines, this place isn't bucknuts...  also, is it that much harder to put in the "y" and the "u"? It's a three-letter word.

On topic, I will be interested to see what response our resident Buckeyes might have on this matter.

http://www.maizenbrew.com/

What the mind can conceive, the mind can achieve; and those who stay will be Champions.
GO BLUE!

scmgoblue

WOLVERINE4EVER64


did u expect anything different, there is no discipline at the sucknut factory.  i'm just glad  RR showed,  when u play for the greatest program in college history u tow the line or pay the price regardless of your importance to the team.
once again blOwSU is sucking hind tit. (good place for them)

Read the posting guidelines, this place isn't bucknuts...  also, is it that much harder to put in the "y" and the "u"? It's a three-letter word.

On topic, I will be interested to see what response our resident Buckeyes might have on this matter.

the  "y" and the "u"    =   LMFAO   , please i have read some of your threads, don't talk to me about spelling errors at least mine are on purpose.
 Now on topic - what does everyone think about this drunk driving problem in  college football   ?  or is there a problem ? hmmmm   

buckeye by birth , WOLVERINE BY CHOICE !! GO BLUE

scmgoblue

WOLVERINE4EVER64


did u expect anything different, there is no discipline at the sucknut factory.  i'm just glad  RR showed,  when u play for the greatest program in college history u tow the line or pay the price regardless of your importance to the team.
once again blOwSU is sucking hind tit. (good place for them)

Read the posting guidelines, this place isn't bucknuts...  also, is it that much harder to put in the "y" and the "u"? It's a three-letter word.

I'm glad someone said it. This isn't Bucknuts, get that "blOwSU" junk out of here.

"Jim Tressel's DNA is linked to the Devil at some point, I'm sure of it."
-Doug Karsch "The Big Show"

Oh man you got me!  I see what you did there, you used another tiresome abbreviation of that internet speak you kids use these days in a response to my simple question regarding the difficulty in typing out a three-letter word to increase the effectiveness of your communication, well played!!!  Truly rapier wit you've got there, sadly your reading comprehension skills aren't quite commensurate to your vast ability to stab me to the very depths of my soul with a comment about my spelling...

Like I said, read the posting guidelines and adjust your posts accordingly.

http://www.maizenbrew.com/

What the mind can conceive, the mind can achieve; and those who stay will be Champions.
GO BLUE!

wow YOU hit the mark, after all this is a spelling and grammar forum isn't it ?  could of swore it was a football forum but then again . 
 i visit alot of OSU (is that better) boards and the one thing i ill give them is they talk about the game and what is important to the game , they are not concerned with the proper spelling of  (you) words so as to make it an issue for better or worse in that they are 1 up again.  sorry i meant (one up ) as for the other remarks directed to OSU  i will refrain from the use of those words on this board as to not upset anyone in the future.  future posts will be adjusted accordingly.

 my appology to anyone i offended on this dellicate issue.

buckeye by birth , WOLVERINE BY CHOICE !! GO BLUE

WOLVERINE4EVER64


wow YOU hit the mark, after all this is a spelling and grammar forum isn't it ?  could of swore it was a football forum but then again . 
i visit alot of OSU (is that better) boards and the one thing i ill give them is they talk about the game and what is important to the game , they are not concerned with the proper spelling of  (you) words so as to make it an issue for better or worse in that they are 1 up again.  sorry i meant (one up ) as for the other remarks directed to OSU  i will refrain from the use of those words on this board as to not upset anyone in the future.  future posts will be adjusted accordingly.

my appology to anyone i offended on this dellicate issue.

Simple solution: stay on the OSU forums.  The guidelines are simple-they only require reading.   R U getting that, LMFAO OMG BFF?

"I have marked down losses for Wisconsin, Michigan State, Penn State, and Ohio State. And then there could be others such as Illinois".-BigHouseFootball March 08

TK23Blue

WOLVERINE4EVER64


wow YOU hit the mark, after all this is a spelling and grammar forum isn't it ?  could of swore it was a football forum but then again . 
i visit alot of OSU (is that better) boards and the one thing i ill give them is they talk about the game and what is important to the game , they are not concerned with the proper spelling of  (you) words so as to make it an issue for better or worse in that they are 1 up again.  sorry i meant (one up ) as for the other remarks directed to OSU  i will refrain from the use of those words on this board as to not upset anyone in the future.  future posts will be adjusted accordingly.

my apology to anyone i offended on this delicate issue.

Simple solution: stay on the OSU forums.  The guidelines are simple-they only require reading.   R U getting that, LMFAO OMG BFF?

L.O.L  - some people are worse than women, i apologize and still get attacked.  as for the remark to stay on the OSU board i don't remember pulling your chain so don't worry about what board i visit that's my choice not your's.  now we can talk football or continue with this childish discussion.  TTFN , R U GETTING THAT LMFAO.
this is just to easy.

buckeye by birth , WOLVERINE BY CHOICE !! GO BLUE

WOLVERINE4EVER64

TK23Blue

WOLVERINE4EVER64


wow YOU hit the mark, after all this is a spelling and grammar forum isn't it ?  could of swore it was a football forum but then again . 
i visit alot of OSU (is that better) boards and the one thing i ill give them is they talk about the game and what is important to the game , they are not concerned with the proper spelling of  (you) words so as to make it an issue for better or worse in that they are 1 up again.  sorry i meant (one up ) as for the other remarks directed to OSU  i will refrain from the use of those words on this board as to not upset anyone in the future.  future posts will be adjusted accordingly.

my apology to anyone i offended on this delicate issue.

Simple solution: stay on the OSU forums.  The guidelines are simple-they only require reading.   R U getting that, LMFAO OMG BFF?

L.O.L  - some people are worse than women, i apologize and still get attacked.  as for the remark to stay on the OSU board i don't remember pulling your chain so don't worry about what board i visit that's my choice not your's.  now we can talk football or continue with this childish discussion.  TTFN , R U GETTING THAT LMFAO.
this is just to easy.

No, you didn't "yank TK's chain" but you did SCM's who has been posting here from the beginning and posting well thought out posts, and TK and I take care of our own.

"Jim Tressel's DNA is linked to the Devil at some point, I'm sure of it."
-Doug Karsch "The Big Show"

I bet the, "he earned his way back to practicing" was fun.  I would love to be there to watch those workouts with Barnuts. He probably puked more in the gym, then after that liquor fest he went on.

Wolverine4Ever64..... Your posts imply that you are either 14 years old or have the maturity of a 14 year old. C'mon....
On Topic....
I will man up and say that I am disappointed in Coach Tressel. I am passing judgement on him from C Deck (i.e. I dont know anything more than what we have all read) but the kid made some BIG mistakes. Although a person can blow a .095 having three beers in an hour, he was drinking under the leagal age limit and was behind the wheel of a car. I think he should've sat for a game or two. Not suspending him sends the wrong message to the other kids on the team.
Just an opinion.

scmgoblue

WOLVERINE4EVER64


did u expect anything different, there is no discipline at the sucknut factory.  i'm just glad  RR showed,  when u play for the greatest program in college history u tow the line or pay the price regardless of your importance to the team.
once again blOwSU is sucking hind tit. (good place for them)

Read the posting guidelines, this place isn't bucknuts...  also, is it that much harder to put in the "y" and the "u"? It's a three-letter word.

On topic, I will be interested to see what response our resident Buckeyes might have on this matter.

 Once  again, I apologize for going outside the guide lines and not using the proper spelling of the word ( you) .
 i will however keep my tongue to myself when and if other posters here who felt it necessary to chime in misspell or use abbreviations or any other means to express a word  other than the proper spelling of said word as i can see how much of a stir it would cause.   SO FOR THE THIRD AND FINAL TIME  " I Apologize  "  to all involved or felt the need to get involved. 
 

buckeye by birth , WOLVERINE BY CHOICE !! GO BLUE

TK23Blue


The ONLY real question is this: Is Worthington a starter?  That's The Vest's moral compass and key factor in any decision he makes. 

TK - You know the answer to that question.  Of course he's a starter.  "The Vest's moral compass."  I just spit coffee on my monitor.  Thanks. 

See you in another life, brother.

Buckeye North


Wolverine4Ever64..... Your posts imply that you are either 14 years old or have the maturity of a 14 year old. C'mon....
On Topic....
I will man up and say that I am disappointed in Coach Tressel. I am passing judgement on him from C Deck (i.e. I dont know anything more than what we have all read) but the kid made some BIG mistakes. Although a person can blow a .095 having three beers in an hour, he was drinking under the leagal age limit and was behind the wheel of a car. I think he should've sat for a game or two. Not suspending him sends the wrong message to the other kids on the team.
Just an opinion.

If I were a Buckeye fan (causes sick feeling in my stomach), I would be very concerned about the message that is being sent to the rest of the team and future recruits.  To me it says if a player is good enough it does not matter if you follow the rules because the best football players are needed on the field regardless of off the field incidents.