umich1


How can someone claim we are "winning the war on terror" when guess what?  THE LEADER OF THE TERRORIST GROUP THAT MURDERED THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS IN 2001 IS STILL ALIVE!  7 YEARS LATER?  WTF ARE WE WINNING?

Just because you capture the head of an organization, does NOT mean you crumple it...This is especially true of terrorism, as there are many types of leaders within a cell.  It would be a huge demoralizing blow to the group, and thus far we have dealt a great many blows by capturing or killing many of the head figures.  But just because we dont kill or capture OBL, does not insight winning or losing.

We turned the tide in WW2 without Hitler offing himself...we were winning the war there.  Yamamoto was losing his war, yet wasnt dead. 

On the other side, Ho Chi Minh died before the end of Vietnam and historians consider that a loss for the U.S.  So the death of a leader, or lack there of, does not constitute a win or lose!

Oh, and TK?  That was the BEST DAMN POST I HAVE EVER READ FROM YOU!!  I think it shows that Americans, right after 9/11..and for about a year after, really did like Bush...thought he was great for this particular job.  I also believe, like you said, that it doesnt matter WHO was in office, it was going to fall in someones lap.  This just happend to be GW.

The_Michigan_Man

umich1


How can someone claim we are "winning the war on terror" when guess what?  THE LEADER OF THE TERRORIST GROUP THAT MURDERED THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS IN 2001 IS STILL ALIVE!  7 YEARS LATER?  WTF ARE WE WINNING?

On the other side, Ho Chi Minh died before the end of Vietnam and historians consider that a loss for the U.S.  So the death of a leader, or lack there of, does not constitute a win or lose!

I agree, however, when McCain says "I'll follow Osama bin Laden to the gates of hell" (cue Howard Dean screech) he is certainly implying that capturing bin Laden will bring automatic safety from terrorism.  That's the problem I have with all this.  McCain is making these outlandish remarks to win support of those who take these on-the-surface comments as fact or promises, when really they are ambiguous and empty.  Unfortunately, many Americans won't see these remarks for what they are: enthusiastic, yet not representative of what McCain can and will do as President.

   You couldn't get a job at McDonalds and become district manager after 143 days of experience.
 
   You couldn't become chief of surgery after 143 days of  experience of being a surgeon.
 
   You couldn't get a job as a teacher and be the superintendent after 143 days of experience.
 
   You couldn't join the military and become a colonel after a 143 days of experience.
 
   You couldn't get a job as a reporter and become the nightly news anchor after 143 days of experience.
 

Well said, never really new the hard numbers. Even more amazing.

We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit. ----Aristotle

The Constitution states that someone needs to be born in the USA and 35 years of age.  Did I leave out anything else that qualifies someone to be president?

I am not going to try to are argue about experience and I don't think Obama should either.  Rumsfeld, Cheney and Bush all had experience, what good did it do us?  I don't want the next president to be someone that is experienced in the ways of Washington.  I want someone that is going to lead the country in a new direction.  That takes someone with courage and vision not someone that is trained in the old ways of doing things.

By the way, Neil Armstrong had exactly 10 hours 41 minutes and 26 seconds of space flight under his belt when he was selected as the commander of Apollo 11.

By the way, Neil Armstrong had exactly 10 hours 41 minutes and 26 seconds of space flight under his belt when he was selected as the commander of Apollo 11.


Neil Armstrong flew missions in Korea, was a test pilot, and had over 900 flights. Not really the same thing. I think he was qualified to fly a space mission.

We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit. ----Aristotle