New Page 1
 
UMGoBlue.COM UMGoBlog.COM Videos Podcasts Forum Subscribe Contact

Prev Thread Prev Thread   Next Thread Next Thread
 Obama vs. McCain - it's official
Change Page: < 12345678 > | Showing page 2 of 8, messages 21 to 40 of 146
Author Message
mgobob

  • Total Posts : 723
  • Reward points : 191
  • Joined: 2/3/2008
  • Location: Commerce Twp. Mi USA
  • Status: offline
RE: Obama vs. McCain - it's official - Saturday, June 07, 2008 2:04 PM
Agree, all muslims are not terrorists, but by all indications, all terrorists are muslims, and they submit to god.
I was brought up to believe that God does not condone killing. This seems kind of hypocrical to me.
 
Tom wears maize, I respect your opinions, I served with pride so that you can have that right, this country is great because we can have an election the likes that has never been seen before.
 
As with every election, the people will have the last say, unlike many other countries, as stated before, I am not exicited about either candidate, by the way I have a 33 year old daughter who gives me the same crap.
<message edited by mgobob on Saturday, June 07, 2008 2:14 PM>
Tom Wears Maize

  • Total Posts : 922
  • Reward points : 188
  • Joined: 2/3/2008
  • Status: offline
RE: Obama vs. McCain - it's official - Saturday, June 07, 2008 3:02 PM
Hehe, us youngins love to give crap. 

It is just annoying when people make accusations against others, in this case Obama, without any substance at all.  There's no proof Obama was a Muslim.  We actually have a Muslim congressman.  That's why America is supposed to be so great.  We have the right to practice or not practice any kind of religon we want. 

The people who usually do this type of smearing are those that have some deep, often false fears.  My Grandfather would straight up tell you that he "won't vote for a [black man]" (and he ain't saying "black man").  I'm not saying that's you by any stretch, however there's a lot of people out there.  And a lot of people, driven by hate, with the aid of internet can cause many problems.

My sophomore year here I took a history course - medieval, renaissance, and middle age history in Europe.  Every war and conflict was caused by one of three things: social class inequality, the blaming of Jews for Christ's death, or conflict between the Muslim world and the Christian world.  Needless to say, great strides have been made since the 1400s.  The one thing I took out of that class (taught by Rudi Lindner, a Jewish professor of Islamic studies) is this:  People of Islam are no different than those of other religons.  They believe in one God, as do Christians.  Also, it wasn't the Muslims who started these conflicts (a little thing called the Crusades).  There are 1.8 billion Muslims.  A quarter of the World.  We can either blame them for all our problems, continue to think that they are some kind of lower class.  Or, we can continue to make strides in the right direction.  Just because someone is Muslim doesn't make them a terrorist, doesn't make them loyal to any terrorist faction.  It is their religon.  In America, a country I'm so proud to be a part of, we don't tolerate different religons, we accept and welcome them.

Alot of people get on Obama's wife for her statement about being proud of America.  I'm proud to be an American, but I am not proud of the actions of many Americans.  I'm not proud that Americans still teach hate and don't tolerate those who are different.  And I'm certainly not proud of the past 6 years of our government. 

If John McCain keeps us in Iraq, keeps spending billions upon billions in that country, then I have no doubts that the US will fail to be the most powerful country in the world.  We will fail to have a strong middle class.  That money could have helped to prevent a recession.  Instead, we will likely see China, a Communist country, grow to unimaginable power while we struggle to find jobs.  There's so much ridiculously at stake with this election.  We need to worry about our problems first, not the middle east's.
University of Michigan - Class of 2009
It's Great to be a Michigan Wolverine
mgobob

  • Total Posts : 723
  • Reward points : 191
  • Joined: 2/3/2008
  • Location: Commerce Twp. Mi USA
  • Status: offline
RE: Obama vs. McCain - it's official - Saturday, June 07, 2008 3:56 PM
The war in the middle east is why for the first time in my life, this election worries me.
From day one we had no business being there, there will always be war and hatred there, and nothing we or anyone else can do will stop it.
It is not a black issue with me, if Colin powell or Thomas Sowell were in the running I would be out campaigning for them, We need a real leader, I have read many stories about Obama's legislative history in Ill. and I am not impressed.
Tom Wears Maize

  • Total Posts : 922
  • Reward points : 188
  • Joined: 2/3/2008
  • Status: offline
RE: Obama vs. McCain - it's official - Saturday, June 07, 2008 4:05 PM
Wasn't implying it was a race issue with you.  But it is with some people, which is disappointing, yet not suprising.
University of Michigan - Class of 2009
It's Great to be a Michigan Wolverine
BigHouseFootball

  • Total Posts : 3607
  • Reward points : 190
  • Joined: 2/3/2008
  • Location: Canton MI USA
  • Status: offline
RE: Obama vs. McCain - it's official - Sunday, June 08, 2008 2:56 AM

ORIGINAL: Harbaugh04

Does this really sound good to anyone?
 

 

 
 
Obama strives to establish a radical democracy that places people's lives under their own  control - a non-racist, classless,   
      where working people own and control the means of production and distribution through democratically-controlled public agencies.. Where full employment is realized for everyone who wants to work; where workers have the right to form unions freely, and to strike and engage in other forms of job actions; and where the production of society is used for the benefit of all humanity, not for the private profit of a few.
We believe that "Obama" and democracy are one and indivisible. The working class is in a key and central position to fight back against the ruling rich class and its power.
The working class is the major force worldwide that can lead the way to a  future - to a real radical democracy from below. Obama will fight for progressive changes compatible with a future. 
Obama will support militant working class struggles and electoral action, independent of the two-party system... 
Obama strive for democratic revolutions - radical and fundamental changes in the structure and quality of economic, political, and personal relations - to abolish the power now exercised by the few who control great wealth and the government. 



 
  


Hmm sounds a lot like Communism actually.

I vote strickly on the candidates' views on the military. I want someone who is NOT going to cut military spending, who is NOT going to demilitarize, and who has experience with it. Also, someone who will NOT hesitate to attack a country or region that posses a threat to the United States. With that being said, as you can imagine, there is no way in hell Obama is getting my vote. The world is too unstable right now to have someone in office that would rather talk out our problems rather than use the United States' military muscle.

Made it through 5 years at Michigan and I'm still a proud Republican [sm=grinsmile.gif]
"Jim Tressel's DNA is linked to the Devil at some point, I'm sure of it."
-Doug Karsch "The Big Show"
umich1

  • Total Posts : 4419
  • Reward points : 193
  • Joined: 2/3/2008
  • Location: Tecumseh MI USA
  • Status: offline
RE: Obama vs. McCain - it's official - Sunday, June 08, 2008 11:17 AM

ORIGINAL: BigHouseFootball


ORIGINAL: Harbaugh04

Does this really sound good to anyone?
 

 

 
 
Obama strives to establish a radical democracy that places people's lives under their own  control - a non-racist, classless,   
      where working people own and control the means of production and distribution through democratically-controlled public agencies.. Where full employment is realized for everyone who wants to work; where workers have the right to form unions freely, and to strike and engage in other forms of job actions; and where the production of society is used for the benefit of all humanity, not for the private profit of a few.
We believe that "Obama" and democracy are one and indivisible. The working class is in a key and central position to fight back against the ruling rich class and its power.
The working class is the major force worldwide that can lead the way to a  future - to a real radical democracy from below. Obama will fight for progressive changes compatible with a future. 
Obama will support militant working class struggles and electoral action, independent of the two-party system... 
Obama strive for democratic revolutions - radical and fundamental changes in the structure and quality of economic, political, and personal relations - to abolish the power now exercised by the few who control great wealth and the government. 



 
  


Hmm sounds a lot like Communism actually.

I vote strickly on the candidates' views on the military. I want someone who is NOT going to cut military spending, who is NOT going to demilitarize, and who has experience with it. Also, someone who will NOT hesitate to attack a country or region that posses a threat to the United States. With that being said, as you can imagine, there is no way in hell Obama is getting my vote. The world is too unstable right now to have someone in office that would rather talk out our problems rather than use the United States' military muscle.

Made it through 5 years at Michigan and I'm still a proud Republican [sm=grinsmile.gif]


Well, luckily, that means McCain isn't getting your vote either, as he plans to dismantle the majority of our nuclear arsenal himself.
buckeyehater22

  • Total Posts : 8636
  • Reward points : 169
  • Joined: 2/3/2008
  • Location: Toledo OH USA
  • Status: offline
RE: Obama vs. McCain - it's official - Sunday, June 08, 2008 11:19 AM

ORIGINAL: BigHouseFootball


ORIGINAL: Harbaugh04

Does this really sound good to anyone?
 

 

 
 
Obama strives to establish a radical democracy that places people's lives under their own  control - a non-racist, classless,   
      where working people own and control the means of production and distribution through democratically-controlled public agencies.. Where full employment is realized for everyone who wants to work; where workers have the right to form unions freely, and to strike and engage in other forms of job actions; and where the production of society is used for the benefit of all humanity, not for the private profit of a few.
We believe that "Obama" and democracy are one and indivisible. The working class is in a key and central position to fight back against the ruling rich class and its power.
The working class is the major force worldwide that can lead the way to a  future - to a real radical democracy from below. Obama will fight for progressive changes compatible with a future. 
Obama will support militant working class struggles and electoral action, independent of the two-party system... 
Obama strive for democratic revolutions - radical and fundamental changes in the structure and quality of economic, political, and personal relations - to abolish the power now exercised by the few who control great wealth and the government. 



 
  


Hmm sounds a lot like Communism actually.

I vote strickly on the candidates' views on the military. I want someone who is NOT going to cut military spending, who is NOT going to demilitarize, and who has experience with it. Also, someone who will NOT hesitate to attack a country or region that posses a threat to the United States. With that being said, as you can imagine, there is no way in hell Obama is getting my vote. The world is too unstable right now to have someone in office that would rather talk out our problems rather than use the United States' military muscle.

Made it through 5 years at Michigan and I'm still a proud Republican [sm=grinsmile.gif]


Right...since it would be shocking to divert from a strategy that we have been using for the past eight years and has gotten us nowhere. Seriously, what's wrong with at least trying to negiotiate with other world leaders, instead of using our 'military muscle'?

And just don't turn out like Ann Coulter, and I'll be happy.
umich1

  • Total Posts : 4419
  • Reward points : 193
  • Joined: 2/3/2008
  • Location: Tecumseh MI USA
  • Status: offline
RE: Obama vs. McCain - it's official - Sunday, June 08, 2008 11:28 AM

ORIGINAL: mgobob

Agree, all muslims are not terrorists, but by all indications, all terrorists are muslims, and they submit to god.
I was brought up to believe that God does not condone killing. This seems kind of hypocrical to me.



Wow.  All terrorists are muslims?  Ever hear about the KKK?  In class last year, I was told of an event that happened in the 90s, where a white Christian man tied an African American to a rope to the back of his truck, and dragged him alive @ 60 mph for FOUR MILES.  When the police got to him and pulled him over, he claimed the only thing he could be charged with is "animal cruelty" because thats what African Americans are.  HOW DISGUSTING.  Another poster pointed to examples of the crusades, and, in fact, there are many more examples of Christians killing Jews and Muslims too.  Do you remember this guy....what was his name....oh yea, HITLER?  Do you think mass murdering people doesn't amount to terrorism?

I believe I have mentioned before that I went to school in Dearborn, MI, for a few years, and I had and have many Muslim friends.  It is important that we seperate psycho idiots (Osama Bin Laden, Saddam Hussein, That Iran Leader that I couldn't spell his name if I tried) from the religion that they claim justifies their pathetic actions.

Furthermore, as it has already been discussed, this is all irrelevant, because Obama has no Muslim ties whatsoever.  Have you turned on the tv lately?  All they do is bash his CHRISTIAN CHURCH.  If you want to complain about him, at least do so discussing Wright and that other catholic nut job.
wangler to carter

  • Total Posts : 3977
  • Reward points : 156
  • Joined: 2/3/2008
  • Location: San Antonio Tx USA
  • Status: offline
RE: Obama vs. McCain - it's official - Monday, June 09, 2008 1:24 AM
I have cooled off on Obama but will vote for him. If the Democrat's don't win this year they won't win one for while.

Let's Go Blue!!
Scott Duncan

  • Total Posts : 659
  • Reward points : 191
  • Joined: 2/3/2008
  • Location: IN USA
  • Status: offline
RE: Obama vs. McCain - it's official - Monday, June 09, 2008 10:05 AM
I have to agree with Phil this is Obama’s election to lose.
However, a couple of points—to say that “Obama has no Muslim ties whatsoever”, is not really true is it?  Perhaps influences is a better term.  An article from the Chicago Tribune last March:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-0703250340mar25,1,4542399.story

So I think that it is fair to say that Obama had some Muslim influences in his life as a young man growing up in Indonesia.  As a young man did he not infrequently attend prayers at a Mosque with his step-father?  Perhaps these are positive influences; in any case they still are part of his upbringing.
I’m not a fan of any organized religion and do not or never have attended church regularly.  However, if I did attend a church for 20 years and its Pastor was my spiritual leader—I find it hard to believe that I would not have heard or discussed his political and social views over that 20 year period.  Obama only disassociated himself from his church and Rev. Wright after these sermons became public.  I find that a little unsettling.
<message edited by Scott Duncan on Monday, June 09, 2008 8:45 PM>
"I don't want our team to expect to win. I want our team to deserve to win."

Rich Rodriguez
Harbaugh04

  • Total Posts : 728
  • Reward points : 173
  • Joined: 2/3/2008
  • Location: Toledo OH USA
  • Status: offline
RE: Obama vs. McCain - it's official - Monday, June 09, 2008 6:52 PM

ORIGINAL: BigHouseFootball


ORIGINAL: Harbaugh04

Does this really sound good to anyone?
 

 

 
 
Obama strives to establish a radical democracy that places people's lives under their own  control - a non-racist, classless,   
      where working people own and control the means of production and distribution through democratically-controlled public agencies.. Where full employment is realized for everyone who wants to work; where workers have the right to form unions freely, and to strike and engage in other forms of job actions; and where the production of society is used for the benefit of all humanity, not for the private profit of a few.
We believe that "Obama" and democracy are one and indivisible. The working class is in a key and central position to fight back against the ruling rich class and its power.
The working class is the major force worldwide that can lead the way to a  future - to a real radical democracy from below. Obama will fight for progressive changes compatible with a future. 
Obama will support militant working class struggles and electoral action, independent of the two-party system... 
Obama strive for democratic revolutions - radical and fundamental changes in the structure and quality of economic, political, and personal relations - to abolish the power now exercised by the few who control great wealth and the government. 



 
  


Hmm sounds a lot like Communism actually.

I vote strickly on the candidates' views on the military. I want someone who is NOT going to cut military spending, who is NOT going to demilitarize, and who has experience with it. Also, someone who will NOT hesitate to attack a country or region that posses a threat to the United States. With that being said, as you can imagine, there is no way in hell Obama is getting my vote. The world is too unstable right now to have someone in office that would rather talk out our problems rather than use the United States' military muscle.

Made it through 5 years at Michigan and I'm still a proud Republican [sm=grinsmile.gif]


Your right in a way Bighouse 
I was trying to get Obama supporters to "bit" on this  lol ...
It worked before on another web site that I posted it on and alot of Obama fanboys said they thought it sounded fine and nothing was wrong with it lol..  I took it from a Socialist Party web site.. And where it said the word "socialism" I delated it and put in "Obama" and where it said "capitalist" I delated it and put rich lol

http://www.sp-usa.org/
<message edited by Harbaugh04 on Monday, June 09, 2008 6:53 PM>
  
...... 
FREE TK!
Harbaugh04

  • Total Posts : 728
  • Reward points : 173
  • Joined: 2/3/2008
  • Location: Toledo OH USA
  • Status: offline
RE: Obama vs. McCain - it's official - Monday, June 09, 2008 7:11 PM
I think this thread should not be called Obama vs McCain but
 
Giant douche v Turd sandwich   lol
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIKJ9O8Rsl4&NR=1 
  
...... 
FREE TK!
zjgm02

  • Total Posts : 3243
  • Reward points : 186
  • Joined: 2/3/2008
  • Location: Phoenix AZ USA
  • Status: offline
RE: Obama vs. McCain - it's official - Monday, June 09, 2008 8:51 PM


ORIGINAL: BigHouseFootball

Also, someone who will NOT hesitate to attack a country or region that posses a threat to the United States.

How has that strategy panned out the last five years?



ORIGINAL: BigHouseFootball

Made it through 5 years at Michigan..

You should consider asking the Registrar for a refund because Michigan obviously failed to impart upon you something as rudimentary as a cause-and-effect relationship.
   Free TK   
BigHouseFootball

  • Total Posts : 3607
  • Reward points : 190
  • Joined: 2/3/2008
  • Location: Canton MI USA
  • Status: offline
RE: Obama vs. McCain - it's official - Monday, June 09, 2008 9:59 PM
I remember the last election walking through the Diag and a guy dressed in a donkey costume came up to me and asked if I voted today and I told him that I did. He then asked if I voted Democratic and I said told him no, that I voted Republican and he asked me why and I responded with, "Because I'm not a jack-ass" he didn't have a response for this so I strolled proudly away. 
"Jim Tressel's DNA is linked to the Devil at some point, I'm sure of it."
-Doug Karsch "The Big Show"
TK23Blue

  • Total Posts : 3349
  • Reward points : 131
  • Joined: 2/3/2008
  • Location: Huntington Beach CA USA
  • Status: offline
RE: Obama vs. McCain - it's official - Tuesday, June 10, 2008 11:40 AM

ORIGINAL: BigHouseFootball

I remember the last election walking through the Diag and a guy dressed in a donkey costume came up to me and asked if I voted today and I told him that I did. He then asked if I voted Democratic and I said told him no, that I voted Republican and he asked me why and I responded with, "Because I'm not a jack-ass" he didn't have a response for this so I strolled proudly away. 

 
"Because I'm not a jack-ass".  Translation:  I really don't have any idea why I voted the way I did.
 
Those damn donkeys-always asking the tough questions.
"I have marked down losses for Wisconsin, Michigan State, Penn State, and Ohio State. And then there could be others such as Illinois".-BigHouseFootball March 08
Harbaugh04

  • Total Posts : 728
  • Reward points : 173
  • Joined: 2/3/2008
  • Location: Toledo OH USA
  • Status: offline
RE: Obama vs. McCain - it's official - Tuesday, June 10, 2008 3:46 PM

ORIGINAL: BigHouseFootball

I remember the last election walking through the Diag and a guy dressed in a donkey costume came up to me and asked if I voted today and I told him that I did. He then asked if I voted Democratic and I said told him no, that I voted Republican and he asked me why and I responded with, "Because I'm not a jack-ass" he didn't have a response for this so I strolled proudly away. 

 
BighouseFootball,
did you see Obama's new ad?
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI3Bskym1Do&feature=related
  
...... 
FREE TK!
umich1

  • Total Posts : 4419
  • Reward points : 193
  • Joined: 2/3/2008
  • Location: Tecumseh MI USA
  • Status: offline
RE: Obama vs. McCain - it's official - Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:03 PM

ORIGINAL: Harbaugh04


ORIGINAL: BigHouseFootball

I remember the last election walking through the Diag and a guy dressed in a donkey costume came up to me and asked if I voted today and I told him that I did. He then asked if I voted Democratic and I said told him no, that I voted Republican and he asked me why and I responded with, "Because I'm not a jack-ass" he didn't have a response for this so I strolled proudly away. 


BighouseFootball,
did you see Obama's new ad?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI3Bskym1Do&feature=related


I just fail to see how spreading deception and lies is funny?!?!?!?!?
BigHouseFootball

  • Total Posts : 3607
  • Reward points : 190
  • Joined: 2/3/2008
  • Location: Canton MI USA
  • Status: offline
RE: Obama vs. McCain - it's official - Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:42 PM

ORIGINAL: TK23Blue


ORIGINAL: BigHouseFootball

I remember the last election walking through the Diag and a guy dressed in a donkey costume came up to me and asked if I voted today and I told him that I did. He then asked if I voted Democratic and I said told him no, that I voted Republican and he asked me why and I responded with, "Because I'm not a jack-ass" he didn't have a response for this so I strolled proudly away. 


"Because I'm not a jack-ass".  Translation:  I really don't have any idea why I voted the way I did.

Those damn donkeys-always asking the tough questions.


You do get the joke, right? Donkey...sometimes called asses...
"Jim Tressel's DNA is linked to the Devil at some point, I'm sure of it."
-Doug Karsch "The Big Show"
Harbaugh04

  • Total Posts : 728
  • Reward points : 173
  • Joined: 2/3/2008
  • Location: Toledo OH USA
  • Status: offline