Bucki78, you are pretty high and mighty about your Buckeyes. Short term memory I guess.   I gurantee App State would have beat any of the clown school's OSU played out of conference last year.  I'm just glad you went out of state for some matchups this year.  Considering the troubles you had stopping Illinois's spread offense i would have liked to see a OSU/App State matchup. 
 
You are obviously not the normal buckeye fan.  I have friends/family that are buckeyes that are great people too, but that's not the majority from my experiences. If you are so confident about your buckeye fans walk around columbus during football season wearing maize and blue or put a michigan sticker on your car for the day and park it on High St.    Then you might get a different perspective.
 
 

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I keep hearing this fan base argument for why everyone hates Ohio State, yet when I go to away OSU games I always hear, "I hope you guys beat Michigan."  Since my family and I are such **** Buckeye fans, I would think that one of these trips I would hear the opposite.

My experience of people hating on OSU the past few years is because many think they cruise through an easy conference schedule and get an undeserved high ranking because of it.  It is hard to argue against this when the 2nd best team in the conference loses at home to a I-AA team.

now see you're just flat out being disrespectful. it would be one thing to make comments like the ones you have in this thread on a osu board but its another to come and say it on a Michigan forum. i don't appreciate it.

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People love to hate the Lakers and Yankees because they are/were perennial champions, just like people hated the Cowboys and the Raiders in the 70's.  When you have consistently racked up championships, people are going to hate you.  Buuuut...that doesn't quite explain OSU as you're not exactly racking up championships and being mentioned in the same breath as the Yankees, Patriots, or Lakers is comedic.  Me thinks you made the list for other reasons.  (Hint: Your fan base might be the biggest clue.)

I keep hearing this fan base argument for why everyone hates Ohio State, yet when I go to away OSU games I always hear, "I hope you guys beat Michigan."  Since my family and I are such **** Buckeye fans, I would think that one of these trips I would hear the opposite.

My experience of people hating on OSU the past few years is because many think they cruise through an easy conference schedule and get an undeserved high ranking because of it.  

 
You dont become the #4 ranked hated cause you " cruise through an easy conference schedule"
That only happen twice lol ... And its not ALL the fans, just like 75%  .. Why is it so hard for some Buckeye fans to understand that the OSU fan base isnt the " friendliest " around lol.... I know that some Michigan fans are conceited , its just how it is lol.. It doesnt bother me

....... ........

And why is it that everyone that I see across the country can not stand OSU and their fans?

 
 

Now I have personally been all over high street, and partied in the front yard of a house on a main side street before the Michigan OSU game 2 years ago 11-0 vs 11-0 wearing my Chuck Woodson away jersey. I clearly knew what I was getting myself into, but wasnt sure how bad it would get. Everyone that walked by gave the ass hole chant, we had footballs and tennis balls thrown at us from yards away, pretty standard stuff. Actually had some people invite me over and gave me a drink and just wanted to talk and get my opinion on things which was a surprise. My question is, cause I have never done it before, what it would be like wearing a troy smith jersey around the big house before the game. And is definately something I may try and experiment with in 2 years just so I can see what it is like from the other side. I am not all that familiar with the campus and big house area. I know the high school and the golf course are right there and main places to park and tailgate. I dont think there is much student housing around like there is at OSU. But it is definately something I plan on trying to do next time the game is in AA. I think OSU fans are some of the most obnoxious people out there, but thats because whenever I am around them lately they win, and I am wearing a Michigan shirt. I would challenge an OSU fan to wear a Michigan uni around high street and columbus the day of the game and see what its like.

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Bucki78, you are pretty high and mighty about your Buckeyes. Short term memory I guess.   I gurantee App State would have beat any of the clown school's OSU played out of conference last year.  I'm just glad you went out of state for some matchups this year.  Considering the troubles you had stopping Illinois's spread offense i would have liked to see a OSU/App State matchup.

From 2006-2008 Ohio State will have played @ Austin, Seattle & LA.  In the same time Michigan will have played only 2 non-conference road games, both being that terribly long trip to South Bend.  How many thousands of square feet do you have in that glass house of yours?

HAhahahahahahahahahahahah hes one of those bandwagon buckeye fans!!!!!!!! he cant name any players unless its within the last 5 years

Why do you even care and try to defend yourself when you know every little word you say more people are going to criticize you! Yes we know your team has been good the last 5 years. and no we dont care about who you play and how you did. As michigan fans we are always going to hate you OSU fans. but i will have to say this fans up in Ann Arbor are not asses like 85 percent of the OSU fans. i know this living in c bus for a good chunk of my life i been to the last 5 osu michigan games and OSU fans taunting is like a million time worse than what people do in AA. At the shoe if you wear anything michigan your guarenteed to get a drenching of beer during the game. ive learned to accept it. but in AA all you get is the loud taunting. the problem with OSU is that OSU football is the only thing the state has to take pride in a fans take it way to far. But OSU has well earned their title on this list. Who knows though PSU might just steal it from you, slowly they are becoming real bad too.

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Bucki78, you are pretty high and mighty about your Buckeyes. Short term memory I guess.   I gurantee App State would have beat any of the clown school's OSU played out of conference last year.  I'm just glad you went out of state for some matchups this year.  Considering the troubles you had stopping Illinois's spread offense i would have liked to see a OSU/App State matchup. 

 
Where Appy State would have fallen into tOSU's strength of schedule:
 
FINAL College Football 2007 through games of 2008 January 7 Monday

1   LSU                  A  =  93.39   12   2   76.26(  11)
11  Ohio State           A  =  87.48   11   2   71.25(  53)
21  Michigan             A  =  82.27    9   4   73.89(  37)
26  Penn State           A  =  80.60    9   4   70.00(  63)
30  Illinois             A  =  79.27    9   4   73.12(  42)
36  Wisconsin            A  =  77.83    9   4   70.84(  57)

44  Appalachian State    AA =  75.73   13   2   59.66( 123)

47  Michigan State       A  =  75.29    7   6   71.35(  52)
55  Washington           A  =  73.81    4   9   78.44(   2)
57  Purdue               A  =  73.76    8   5   67.80(  71)
86  Northwestern         A  =  65.30    6   6   67.92(  70)
105 Youngstown State     AA =  60.83    7   4   55.00( 141)
123 Minnesota            A  =  57.72    1  11   71.12(  54)
127 Akron                A  =  56.67    4   8   64.05(  96)
139 Kent State           A  =  53.41    3   9   63.27( 102)

See you in another life, brother.

The fact is, OSU could beat Michigan the next 10 years in a row but their fans will never escape the inferiority complex they suffer from when it comes to anything-Michigan.  They are obsessed with everything we say and do. (Could help to explain the Buck fans on this forum who are 'Wolverine Immortals'.)  Maybe Bucki78 does hear "Beat Michigan" at a lot of the road games he goes to, but apparently these aren't the people who voted in the "5 Sports Franchises We Love To Hate".  This is not Michigan fans hating OSU.  These everybody else in the free world.  Your fight is with them, not us.

"I have marked down losses for Wisconsin, Michigan State, Penn State, and Ohio State. And then there could be others such as Illinois".-BigHouseFootball March 08

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The fact is, OSU could beat Michigan the next 10 years in a row but their fans will never escape the inferiority complex they suffer from when it comes to anything-Michigan.  They are obsessed with everything we say and do. (Could help to explain the Buck fans on this forum who are 'Wolverine Immortals'.)  Maybe Bucki78 does hear "Beat Michigan" at a lot of the road games he goes to, but apparently these aren't the people who voted in the "5 Sports Franchises We Love To Hate".  This is not Michigan fans hating OSU.  These everybody else in the free world.  Your fight is with them, not us.

 
Very well said TK--
 
How many little brother fans are there in the UM football forum?  ND fans??  Answer--zero, it is exactly as you stated an inferiority complex that most "University of Ohio State" fans suffer from.  I certainly don't lurk or hang out at Bucknuts--why would I?

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I keep hearing this fan base argument for why everyone hates Ohio State, yet when I go to away OSU games I always hear, "I hope you guys beat Michigan."  Since my family and I are such **** Buckeye fans, I would think that one of these trips I would hear the opposite.

My experience of people hating on OSU the past few years is because many think they cruise through an easy conference schedule and get an undeserved high ranking because of it.  It is hard to argue against this when the 2nd best team in the conference loses at home to a I-AA team.

now see you're just flat out being disrespectful. it would be one thing to make comments like the ones you have in this thread on a osu board but its another to come and say it on a Michigan forum. i don't appreciate it.

How is he being disrespectful?  Because he mentioned a FACT that you don't want to be reminded of?  I wish sometimes this board would get less defensive about Michigan and more objective about topics.  Our loss to App State added a tremendous amount of fuel to the fire that the Big Ten is a weak conference.  So has OSU's last two performances in the national championship games....although the nation likes to forget OSU outgained LSU this past year.

I believe the nation as a whole tends to dislike Ohio State for a variety of reasons, part of which is their "coasting through an easy Big Ten Sched" and part of which is the few Ohio State fans that give the whole fan base a bad name by rioting in the streets and harassing opposing fans.  But lets face it guys, a lot of people hate Michigan too, because we are proud (they call it arrogant ) of our tradition and academic excellence. 

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I keep hearing this fan base argument for why everyone hates Ohio State, yet when I go to away OSU games I always hear, "I hope you guys beat Michigan."  Since my family and I are such **** Buckeye fans, I would think that one of these trips I would hear the opposite.

My experience of people hating on OSU the past few years is because many think they cruise through an easy conference schedule and get an undeserved high ranking because of it.  It is hard to argue against this when the 2nd best team in the conference loses at home to a I-AA team.

now see you're just flat out being disrespectful. it would be one thing to make comments like the ones you have in this thread on a osu board but its another to come and say it on a Michigan forum. i don't appreciate it.

How is he being disrespectful?  Because he mentioned a FACT that you don't want to be reminded of?  I wish sometimes this board would get less defensive about Michigan and more objective about topics.  Our loss to App State added a tremendous amount of fuel to the fire that the Big Ten is a weak conference.  So has OSU's last two performances in the national championship games....although the nation likes to forget OSU outgained LSU this past year.

I believe the nation as a whole tends to dislike Ohio State for a variety of reasons, part of which is their "coasting through an easy Big Ten Sched" and part of which is the few Ohio State fans that give the whole fan base a bad name by rioting in the streets and harassing opposing fans.  But lets face it guys, a lot of people hate Michigan too, because we are proud (they call it arrogant ) of our tradition and academic excellence. 

It's not disrespectful to say we lost to App St. It's disrespectful the way he said it. Just because somewhere around 80% of college football fans are completely ignorant of anything outside their own team that became much bigger than it should have been. It was a huge upset, yes, but they were a good football team and on that day they showed it. To be honest, I think OSU biting it on the biggest stage two years in a row (along with us and ILL disappearing in the Rose Bowl) has been a much bigger hit than losing to ASU. OSU fans have no reason to get condescending. You have beat for a few years now. Just like we did in the years before. Try to be an adult about it.

I think what he is saying that the justification the Bucknut was using was an deliberate, thinly veiled jab at UM rather than a legitimate logical reasoning as to why his team fails to win championships. Typical response by many posters to project failure on your rival.

So, disrespectful? Sure, no question it was deliberate, but I kind of run with the mentality that that's to be expected in the Internet message board community. :)

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People love to hate the Lakers and Yankees because they are/were perennial champions, just like people hated the Cowboys and the Raiders in the 70's.  When you have consistently racked up championships, people are going to hate you.  Buuuut...that doesn't quite explain OSU as you're not exactly racking up championships and being mentioned in the same breath as the Yankees, Patriots, or Lakers is comedic.  Me thinks you made the list for other reasons.  (Hint: Your fan base might be the biggest clue.)

I keep hearing this fan base argument for why everyone hates Ohio State, yet when I go to away OSU games I always hear, "I hope you guys beat Michigan."  Since my family and I are such **** Buckeye fans, I would think that one of these trips I would hear the opposite.

My experience of people hating on OSU the past few years is because many think they cruise through an easy conference schedule and get an undeserved high ranking because of it.  

You dont become the #4 ranked hated cause you " cruise through an easy conference schedule"
That only happen twice lol ... And its not ALL the fans, just like 75%  .. Why is it so hard for some Buckeye fans to understand that the OSU fan base isnt the " friendliest " around lol.... I know that some Michigan fans are conceited , its just how it is lol.. It doesnt bother me

Some?

It feels good to be hated. But I am surprised ND isn't on the list. I guess more than a decade of fall from the elite programs will do that to you.

btw, TK23, on the "inferiority complex." It made my day.

tOSU was THE leader in graduation rate and a role model for discipline during the Woody Hayes-Earle Bruce era. Cooper destroyed that legacy. RR is UM's version of Cooper. I will enjoy seeing UM fans kicked off your high horse when arrests pile up.

bucki does that not make you think ummm please beat the WINNIGEST football team in the NCAA, like a fan at a royals game say hey I hope you beat the yankees...
It does not mean hey we dont think you guys are a holes just beat THE BEST. Most people want to see the best beat unless they are your team.
 
Using that same logic every time I am at a home game where the other teams fans have traveled to see the BIG HOUSE all they can say in the tailgate is I can not belive how great the fans are here we made the mistake of going  to colonbus and those were the biggest arse"s of fans I have ever seen.  I will NEVER tell someone to go to a game there.  NOT even my worst enemy because they dont know what a fan is.  Just how they can cause damage to their property.
 
I have also been to many road games including sparty and they all echo the same.  I think the words are hey dont worry this isnt colonbus we are fans of our team not vandals...  If you win we hate you but we wont try to assault you on your way back to your car.

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Bucki78- What do you expect to find on a WOLVERINE forum?

I expect to find this:

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HAhahahahahahahahahahahah hes one of those bandwagon buckeye fans!!!!!!!! he cant name any players unless its within the last 5 years

and Michigan fans have yet to disappoint.

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How many little brother fans are there in the UM football forum?  ND fans??  Answer--zero, it is exactly as you stated an inferiority complex that most "University of Ohio State" fans suffer from.  I certainly don't lurk or hang out at Bucknuts--why would I?

I like this forum not because I am obsessed with Michigan but because I enjoy discussing topics I like with people that have different points of view.  It is getting harder to find but there are still some posters that try to stay objective:

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How is he being disrespectful?  Because he mentioned a FACT that you don't want to be reminded of?  I wish sometimes this board would get less defensive about Michigan and more objective about topics.  Our loss to App State added a tremendous amount of fuel to the fire that the Big Ten is a weak conference.  So has OSU's last two performances in the national championship games....although the nation likes to forget OSU outgained LSU this past year.

I believe the nation as a whole tends to dislike Ohio State for a variety of reasons, part of which is their "coasting through an easy Big Ten Sched" and part of which is the few Ohio State fans that give the whole fan base a bad name by rioting in the streets and harassing opposing fans.  But lets face it guys, a lot of people hate Michigan too, because we are proud (they call it arrogant ) of our tradition and academic excellence.

I still miss UofMJess and I regret that I was never able to take him up on his offer of getting together for a couple of beers. 

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I think what he is saying that the justification the Bucknut was using was an deliberate, thinly veiled jab at UM rather than a legitimate logical reasoning as to why his team fails to win championships. Typical response by many posters to project failure on your rival.

I was not using Michigan's loss to ASU as a reason why OSU failed to win the NC last year.  I was using it as a reason why many think the Big Ten is overrated.  Last year many of the posters here were screaming about how stupid OSU and PSU fans were for cheering when Michigan lost to ASU and they were right.  Now I am saying the same thing but somehow it is disrespectful.  I guess it is true that only Nixon can go to China.

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Just because somewhere around 80% of college football fans are completely ignorant of anything outside their own team that became much bigger than it should have been.

So far 25 people have participated in this thread.  Would you please tell me which 5 are not completely ignornant of anything outside of their own team?

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To be honest, I think OSU biting it on the biggest stage two years in a row (along with us and ILL disappearing in the Rose Bowl) has been a much bigger hit than losing to ASU.

In terms of conference strength you maybe right because bowl games are how many compare conferences but please don't tell me you would rather see your team lose to a I-AA team than lose in the championship game.